From: Les Hardin (hardinl@xxxxxxx)
Date: Sat Mar 03 2001 - 18:42:51 GMT-3
All
Do NOT buy from Grandstore aka IQSale! They've ripped me AND a colleague
off. It took me 6 months, several phone calls, and e-mails with legal
threats to get them to credit my credit card for a return. They've stolen
my colleagues frame switch when it was sent back for repairs (for the
second time!). Stay away from these guys.. They are bad news!
Les
At 11:08 PM 3/3/2001 +0800, Jason1 wrote:
>I'm amazed that you managed to interpreted that huge amount of information
>from that one sentenses below... I must be using the wrong bastard mask !!
>;-)
>
>As for www.grandstore.com or AKA www.iqsale.com . I have had extremely bad
>experiences with them...
>
>1. First case, bought Cisco 4500 routers with a 2 Serial.. Sent to me
>without the module. After lots of calls, then they sent me the module. When
>installed. Realised that the router is faulty.. i.e. the module is not
>detected when inserted in. Request for RMA. Told me no stock, so return for
>refund.. 1 and 1/2 month after returning, still chasing after refund...
>
>2. 2nd case, Thought I give them another chance, , bought 2610 with voice
>module. 1 month after payment, still didn't received item.. Chase after
>them, finally , after 2 weeks , told me that it was losted and will be
>shipped to me on the same day.(Reminded about the voice modules. It took
>another 2 weeks before router reach me and voice modules is not inside.
>Chase after them for another two weeks.. finally, threaten to file a
>complaint , and got a response the same day that the module will be shipped
>to me.. All in, this took them 3 months to get it right... (still on the
>way.....)
>
>They are not fraudulent, but also not exactly the type that I will want to
>deal with.. especially if I have a deadline on my hand.. Considering that
>they screwed up, they should have make good on the delivery and do a next
>day urgent delivery .. So I'm very pissed off at them, but I still don't go
>around calling them bastards.. at least not without explainations...
>
>On the other side of the coin, I have had very good experiences with Market
>Network Solutions down in Texas.. I bought a Cisco 2504 from them, they had
>a minor mistake which I informed them but didn't really bother much with
>asking for compensation or offset as it was quite minor . The next time I
>tried to order a Token Ring Hub from them, he actually shipped me one for
>free without charges, not even shipping charges. So for those who wants a
>good deal on Cisco equipments, I highly recommend Pat McKool. At least I
>know that he is honestly interested in making his customers feel good about
>his services...
>
>For those interested, you can email Pat McKool Pmckool@aol.com .
>
>Pat McKool
>972/424-0565
>Market Network Solutions
>Cisco Networking Equipment
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ted Ahlen" <ahlen_t@ins.com>
>To: "'Jason1'" <jason1@v-labs.net>; "'Fred Mahoney'"
><fred_mahoney@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; <jobs@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 4:33 PM
>Subject: RE: future computer LLC
>
>
> > Funny thing. I've bought several thousand dollars worth of routers from
>one
> > particular vendor and have had no complaints. Lucky me. Much like knowing
> > the name of my vendor (www.grandstore.com), aspiring CCIE's might want to
> > know the names/handles of fraudulent Ebay auction perpetrators or the name
> > or URL of fraudulent Cisco router vendors before getting ripped off. The
> > only thing is that an explanation of the alleged circumstances might help
> > list members judge for themselves what to be careful of when buying gear.
> > Thanks for your helpful insight into the workings of safe commerce for
>CCIE
> > candidates. Almost as insightful as the posts of CL.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Ted
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > Jason1
> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 10:34 PM
> > To: Fred Mahoney; ccielab@groupstudy.com; jobs@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: future computer LLC
> >
> >
> > So how many Class A bastards , Class B bastards and Class C bastards are
> > there according to your specifications ? I assume Class D bastards are
> > multicast based and Class E bastards are bastards reserved for testing
> > purpose, and as such cannot be allocated to individual host. I think the
>DNS
> > screwed up again.. you probably want to mail your complaints to
>www.bbb.org
> > rather than www.groupstudy.com .
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fred Mahoney" <fred_mahoney@hotmail.com>
> > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; <jobs@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 6:02 AM
> > Subject: future computer LLC
> >
> >
> > > These guys are class A bastards.
> > > fred
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