From: Al Banks (abanks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Fri Feb 23 2001 - 11:37:53 GMT-3
One of the better books for CIP (Channel Interface Processor) configuration
is ISBN #1578700833, _Internetworking_SNA_With_Cisco_solutions_. This book
was written by George and Nancy Sackett, who also wrote some IBM
documentation a while back, I think.
Since this device is not on the equipment list for the R&S exam, I wouldn't
spend much time on it - However, it is a valuable bit of knowledge to have
with all the IBM mainframe shops out there.
FWIW, The CIP connects to a mainframe via an ESCON (Enterprise System
Connection - big fast fiber) or parallel (slower copper) connection. CIPs
can support up to 2 connections. From there, you can configure the CIP to
do APPN (not too familiar with that one), or LLC connections via a virtual
token ring and SRB, so the CIP can do what a 3745 (front-end processor)
does. Additionally, you can run this LLC traffic into DLSw+, and terminate
the other end on a serial custer controller (3174R, I think), or other
network. CIPs also support TN3270, so they can act as your TN3270 server.
On a mainframe running as a sysplex, with multiple LPARs (conceptually like
the mainframe version of a VLAN), you can use a single channel connection to
establish connectivity to all LPARs (Like a channel can provide routing for
multiple VLANs.)
This is probably more information than you ever wanted to know, but I think
it's interesting and worth looking over once - but this is coming from the
guy who configured VINES, Apollo, and XNS just for fun before lab...
If anyone would like some more information, drop me a line, and I'll drag
out the book I mentioned above and see what I can come up with....
HTH,
-Al Banks
-CCIE #6599
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian [mailto:signal@shreve.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 9:41 PM
To: Steven Weber
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CIP
steven,
I agree. One of the books I am reading, Network Design and Case Studies,
devotes an entire chapter on CIP. I am familar with the basic concept of
CIP, but have never configured it. I just didn't want to waste time on
something that would be impossible to be in the lab (impossible because
its not on the equipment list)
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Steven Weber wrote:
> even if the test was on the CIP alone 2 days may not be enough.
configuring a
> CIP is extremely difficult it is something only the TCP/IP to SNA
integration
> CCIE has to be worried about. Cisco has a course that is a week long (or
> maybe 4 days) that covers CIP alone! Besides, if you aren't an SNA guy the
> whole thing is like chineese.
> Regards,
> Steve
>
> Brian wrote:
>
> > I wanted to know if it pays to study any CIP configuration for the lab.
> > My understanding is since 7000/7500's are not part of the equipment
list,
> > then CIP should not even be testable. Does this make sense, or is their
> > something I am missing?
> >
> > Brian
> >
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