From: Mark Lewis (markl11@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Feb 15 2001 - 17:16:03 GMT-3
I know what you're saying, but it does SEEM like the pass rate has really
jumped since dec/lat/lane/etc. have come off the test. Remember, all the
resources (bootcamp labs/etc) have been around for quite a while.
The CCIE numbers have been growing at about a thousand a year since it's
inception - just wonder what it's going to be for 2001.
Mark
CCIE#6280 / CCSI#21051
>From: "Brian Stewart" <brian@andyandbrian.com>
>Reply-To: "Brian Stewart" <brian@andyandbrian.com>
>To: "'Jason T. Rohm'" <jtrohm@athenet.net>, "'CCIELIST (E-mail)'"
><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:04:53 -0700
>
>I think that the CCIE has finally hit critical mass just as the MCSE did
>years ago. I don't think it's that the test has gotten any easier it's
>just
>that more people taking it know more about the exam. When I began my study
>for the CCIE written there were very few resources available. Now we have
>a
>list of books, groupstudy and several practice lab services to help get
>through the written and lab. With all these resources there is less of a
>requirement for practicle experience. It used to be a rarity to see a CCIE
>under 25 now there are many 18 and 19 year old CCIEs.
>
>It is no different than the MCSE years ago or the CCNA and CCNP recently.
>As study materials increase the exams become easier to pass. I know CCNPs
>who can't configure a 2 interface router. They read books and managed to
>pass the exams.
>
>I took the lab exam several times over the course of 2 years. I can assure
>you the test hasn't gotten easier. The lab I passed was nearly identical
>to
>the first lab exam I attempted. I thought it was impossible then but now I
>see it as almost trivial.
>
>For another example look at the ISP dial and Wan Switching labs. There are
>very few resources for those labs and the pass rate remains very low.
>
>Brian Stewart, CCIE# 6254, CISSP, MCSE
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
>Jason T. Rohm
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 9:16 AM
>To: CCIELIST (E-mail)
>Subject: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>
>
>I just got my CCIE a few days ago and was disapointed at how easy the test
>was (by comparision to my other attempts).
>
>The raw number of new CCIE in the last few weeks seems to confirm that the
>new tests are infact easier than the old ones.
>
>While I am quite happy to have passed, I am also quite concerned that the
>number of CCIEs is going to double this year with the newly watered down
>tests and bigger labs.
>
>Does anyone else have a comment on this?
>
>Thank you,
>
> Jason T. Rohm
> Sr. Network Engineer
> jtrohm@athenet.net
> (920) 983-0310
> CCIE #6861
>
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