RE: ISDN Simulators

From: Alan Basinger (abasinge@xxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Fri Feb 09 2001 - 20:06:05 GMT-3


   
It cost an average of $80 per month nation wide for a single ISDN 128k
bonded line plus in some area's a per minute charge. Plus depending on the
router you may need NT1's. I work for the Telco and have rolled out an
international dialup VPN for a previous employer recently.
Problem I see is I have been working well over 6 months on the CCIE and ISDN
is a big part of the lab. Many listing on groupstudy talk of how it took 9
months to get there and with the backlog in the lab now I wouldn't be
surprised a year or more to get the CCIE. If you buy a teltone or Atlas now,
you can sell it for what you paid for it a year later and spend little to
nothing. Get 2 ISDN lines for a year and in the end you could have almost
owned the ISDN sim. I can compare this to people who rent apartments or
homes for a year when your done you have nothing to show for it but a roof
over your head for a year. After buying my home when I'm done I sell my
house and make 200k profit I roll into a bigger house. It is like putting
money in the bank. But it is all up the individual I personally think buying
the sim was a good move for me.

just my 2cents

Alan Basinger
Systems Engineer
SBC DataComm
Houston Texas
abasinge@swbell.net

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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Barry J. Bocaner
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 3:50 PM
To: Jim(thrupoint)
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: ISDN Simulators

On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Jim(thrupoint) wrote:
> eBay genrally has one or two ISDN simulators being advertised. Check for
> ISDN sim*. New units list for just over and under $2,000. Also, be aware
> that 2500s have S/T connections, you will need a pair of NT1s if your ISDN
> simulator doesn't handle S/T. Either way, that should put you over the
> $2,000 mark.
>
> eBay:
> TELTONE ISDN SIMULATOR NEW
> Item #1213121563 now at $1,500, but several days to go.

Here's what I don't get.... why is everyone so hung up on ISDN simulators?
Why not just order a couple of BRIs from the phone company? Here in
expensive bell atlantic land a couple of buisness line BRIs cost around
$40 a month each plus 1 cent a minute per channel and they usually can get
them in within a week. Just be careful that you don't leave a circuit up
while you aren't studying and your per-minute charges won't add up at all.
Say you keep the lines for six months and get hit with an install fee,
that's still only around $600 -- a LOT less than a simulator, plus you can
use them when you aren't studying for extra fax lines or for a modem to
dial into your home or office. I believe they use real BRIs in the real
lab...

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