From: Cal Michael (cmichael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Jan 30 2001 - 16:12:50 GMT-3
- You used to be able to do the "silent consultation" aka "rent
my CCIE number" a few years back to help out Premier partners
to Silver, and even Silver partners to Gold if they met the
sales criteria for the desired partnership tier.
The normal situation for this was when a CCIE was going to
"other pastures" leaving his about-to-be-former employer in a
bind.
The going rate for this was $10~$20K or some other mutually
profitable arrangement between the partner and CCIE.
Of course this was back when Cisco was still building a solid
channel - and would bend rules more willingly than now. . .
However, based on a rumor that Cisco has caught wind of this
practice, I emailed Cisco and inquired about this directly
lat year.
The response was pretty much, that all parties that are
engaged in this type of relationship will be decertified and
voted off the island - or is it campus now (grin).
Of course, what Cisco doesn't know, won't hurt them. . .
But is a partner who is trying to obtain Silver or Gold going
to risk it in this ever increasingly competitive marketplace?
Or a CCIE who studies for the year or two going to risk his or
her medallion and number for $10~20K?
Probably not.
--- Later ---
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Pinnacle -- Erik Freeland
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:54 AM
To: 'Justin Menga'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: OFF TOPIC - Hiring your CCIE
Not to say I condone this but...
Yes, you can. What you do in essense if sign an employment agreement with a
company that says you work for them for a set amount for a set time, but you
never have to do any actual work. This company in return can use your number
to possible obtain their Silver or Gold reseller status and therefor derive
deeper Cisco discounts.
Getting these deeper discounts can mean a tremendous amount of additional
profit. For instance, the total sales required for Silver Partner is
$4,000,000 US. Silver Partners get approximately 10% deeper discounts on
their merchandise that others. Assuming the same sales price, the additional
profit is $400,000 US. MOre often that not though, the sales price is also
reduced while keeping a higher margin.
>From this scenario, if a Premier Partner has the required sales but not the
second CCIE required to become a Silver Partner, they may be interested in a
"purchasing" a CCIE.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Justin Menga
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 5:33 PM
To: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
Subject: OFF TOPIC - Hiring your CCIE
Hi All,
Sorry to go off topic, but I have heard many rumours that you can 'hire'
your CCIE number to companies in the US, without even doing any work for
them. Obviously this relates to discounts that these companies get with
number of CCIEs.
Is there any truth to these rumours?
Regards,
Justin Menga CCIE #6640 MCSE+I CCSE
WAN Specialist
Computerland New Zealand
PO Box 3631, Auckland
DDI: (+64) 9 360 4864 Mobile: (+64) 25 349 599
mailto: justin.menga@computerland.co.nz
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