From: Jason (jason1@xxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Fri Jan 19 2001 - 13:45:17 GMT-3
Oh, you mean this list is not for
1. Technical Support
2. CCNA Questions
3. CCNP Questions
4. Labs Date Exchange
5. MCSE Bashing
6. CNE Bashing (* nah, they probably do this on the MCSE newsgroup instead)
7. Microsoft Bashing
8. Cisco Bashing
9. "Anybody who disagree with you" bashing
10. Football Updates
11. Soccer Updates
12 Blond Updates
13 Baseball Updates
14. WWF Updates
15 Salary Survey
16 Recruiter Trolling
17 Recruiter Bashing
18 Recruiter Basher Bashing
19 CCIE announcing their CCIE # and NDA agreement
20 CCIE wanna-be sending conglads
21 CCIE Sales of equipments after getting their CCIE
I could have swear 99% of the mails pertain to the above !!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nnanna Obuba" <obuba@yahoo.com>
To: "Sam Munzani" <sam@munzani.com>; "dezhong" <dcai@cisco.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE, is it difficult? is it valuable?
> Once upon a time, this list was for studying and solving problems...
> I think we should go back to that.
>
>
> cheers
>
> Nnanna
>
> --- Sam Munzani <sam@munzani.com> wrote:
> > You are 100% right. CCIE without experience is not a money maker. A
> > lot of
> > companies look at CCIE with other backgrounds line Novell, Microsoft,
> > Unix
> > and Security. If you have combination of all then you are a hot cake.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sam Munzani
> > CCIE # 6479, CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNE, SCO Master ACE
> >
> >
> > > Hi, all,
> > >
> > > I heard many stories about how difficult to get the CCIE and how
> > valuable
> > it
> > > is. So now I'm.
> > >
> > > I joined Cisco last June as a new graduate student without any
> > cisco
> > > background.
> > > I passed the CCIE in last Dec. My salary is still as low as
> > 68,000. My
> > > grade is still as low as 6. And it seem there is no big promotion
> > in the
> > > near future. No promotion to grade 8.
> > >
> > > I don't feel it is difficult to pass the CCIE. I also doubt the
> > value of
> > the
> > > CCIE. In my opinion, even you have CCIE, it still depend on whether
> > you
> > have
> > > good experience. Like me, without any work experience except in
> > cisco for
> > > several months. Can you see I'm a valuable CCIE?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dezhong Cai
> > > Cisco Systems, CCIE # 6621
> > >
> > >
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