From: Frank Jimenez (franjime@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Jan 11 2001 - 22:55:44 GMT-3
Actually, my favorite giggle is how the CCIE lab no longer tests on topics such
as DEC/Appletalk/ATM LANE/IS-IS...
The very week that they announced the removed topics, my calendar went somethin
g like this:
Monday: Help customer 1 with L3 switch design regarding legacy DEC server.
Tuesday: Customer 2 asks for help regarding 8540 Switch and Appletalk.
Wednesday: Sales call with customer 3. Upon arriving, discover that customer 3
has meltdown of ATM network due to problems with LANE...
Thursday: Deleted topics announced....
My first thought was 'Well thank goodness that my customers won't have problems
with *those* anymore! Since they're not on the lab, they must not be importan
t....' <giggle>
Life isn't the lab. The lab isn't life....
Frank Jimenez, CCIE #5738
Systems Engineer
Cisco Systems
franjime@cisco.com
At 04:54 PM 01/11/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>> On both of my CCIE lab attempts, I've heard people attack the format of =
>> the lab. They usually go like this:
>>
>> "I think the whole thing is a crock! No network would ever be set up =
>> that way and you wouldn't have all those restrictions. If I had enough =
>> time and didn't have the restrictions I could get everything working."
>>
>> Yes, it's true that anyone, with enough time and no restrictions, could =
>> get everything to work. However, this isn't called the Cisco Certified =
>> PROFESSIONAL Lab--it's an EXPERT lab. That means you can take a bunch of =
>> routers and make them do whatever is required, no matter how many =
>> restrictions are placed upon you or how ugly the situation gets.
>>
>> Anyone can get routers to work, only experts can make them dance.
>>
>> Tony Olzak, CCIE #6689
>>
>I work heavily with agencies within the Federal government. Lets take the
>Dept. of Labor for an example. There are a number of organizations within
>the DOL that run their own networks, with their own equipment.
>Unfortunately, all of DOL must have access to their Time and Attendance
>system. Therefore all of these organizations were required to interconnect
>their networks. Some are pure Cisco and running EIGRP, one was pure 3com and
>running OSPF, another was running RIPv2. In order to bring everyone together
>a new network was built and all of these organizations connected to it via a
>Catalyst 5500 with RSM and VIP. This core device has OSPF, RIP, EIGRP
>running on it. All of these protocols are redistributed into each other so
>that the organizations now have an internal transit network between each
>other in order to bypass the Internet. They have organizations connecting
>via 10BaseFL, 100BaseFX, 10/100BaseT, T-1, and ATM. So anyone that tells me
>the CCIE Lab is not a real world network, has never had to interconnect
>multiple organizations in to a single network infrastructure. At least on
>the Internet everyone has decided to use BGP.
>
>David C Prall dcp@dcptech.com http://dcp.dcptech.com
>
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