From: Tony Olzak (aolzak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Jan 10 2001 - 20:40:50 GMT-3
That's a good question. When everything people say on the list starts making
sense, that's when you know you are ready. I used to be pretty active on the
list and ended up burning myself out. I felt like "Grandpa Cisco" answering
all the questions for everyone. But, I must say, the list was invaluable for
learning in the beginning, and then for keeping it all fresh after I knew
more.
Also, when I could read through practice tests, understand every question,
then do all the configs in my head, then I knew I was ready.
Tony Olzak, CCIE #6689
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert DeVito" <robertdevito@hotmail.com>
To: <aolzak@buckeye-express.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Second Attempts
> I have another question, might be hard to answer.. When do you know when
you
> are ready? When do you know that you are at the "CCIE Level"? Was there
one
> lab that proved that you where ready??
>
> Thank you,
> Robert
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Tony Olzak" <aolzak@buckeye-express.com>
> Reply-To: "Tony Olzak" <aolzak@buckeye-express.com>
> To: "Michelle T" <mtruman@mn.mediaone.net>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Subject: Re: Second Attempts
> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:32:42 -0500
>
> I passed on my second attempt yesterday.
>
> The difference this time? I finished the entire lab by about 11:30AM on
Day
> 1 and had the rest of the time to check my configs five or six times over.
I
> caught two mistakes that would have cost me some points.
>
> Tony Olzak, CCIE #6689
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michelle T" <mtruman@mn.mediaone.net>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 1:22 PM
> Subject: Second Attempts
>
>
> > If anyone is feeling so inclined to, I would be interested in hearing
> about
> > second attempts. I am about to take mine and have been wondering a lot
> about
> > what it will be like. I took my first attempt in March of last year, so
> it
> > seems like it has been a long time. I remember being really surprised
at
> how
> > un-prepared I was. I thought I knew routing and switching very well and
> had
> > a chance at passing the first time. Well, I was surprised to find that
> > routing and switching really were not my biggest problems, though I did
> not
> > know them as well as I thought I did. There is a big difference between
> > knowing how to get a protocol up and working and understanding the
inner
> > workings of that protocol and the gotchas and rules. Most importantly,
I
> > discovered that you will never get to the layer 3 stuff you feel
> comfortable
> > with if you can't get Layer 1 and 2 working flawlessly. I did ok on L1,
> but
> > layer 2 issues caught me very much by surprise. I felt I encountered
just
> > about every frame format that exists in that lab on that day. And as I
> > frantically searched the CD and watched the time tick away at a surreal
> > speed, I realized I had a long way to go.
> >
> > That night, knowing I would not make it the next day, I seriously
> > contemplated giving up. I think I knew deep down just how much time
this
> was
> > going to take and had myself nearly talked out of it. Lucky for me I
have
> an
> > understanding and encouraging spouse who gently kicked me in the butt
and
> > got me going again.
> >
> > I just looked back at a lab I had practiced on a lot before that first
> > attempt. It's from the U of M practice lab and I remember spending an
> entire
> > weekend on it. I think I could do it now in a couple of hours. But at
the
> > time, I thought I was doing pretty well. Now I realize that it is so
> > important to know things right off the top of your head so you can have
> some
> > time for the things that don't quite make sense or for which there
isn't
> an
> > obvious answer jumping out at you. Anyway, regardless of the outcome, I
> just
> > believe this will be a completely different experience and know that if
I
> > pass, I will have earned it and if I don't pass, I don't have nearly as
> far
> > to go as I once did.
> >
> > Thanks for your thoughts in advance!
> >
> > Michelle Truman
> >
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