From: Sam Munzani (sam@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Jan 02 2001 - 14:43:19 GMT-3
I don't think partners get priority either. It's wrong information. I work
for Premier partner and didn't get priority either.
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Viscosi" <patv@cisco.com>
To: "Raymond Cheung" <rcheung@slb.com>
Cc: <Graham.Fagan@psir.ie>; <achew@unmail.org>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Backlog for CCIE Lab (RTP at least)
> Cisco employees do not get priority over anyone else when scheduling their
lab
> date.
>
> Raymond Cheung wrote:
>
> > Totally agree with you. I was short by 3-5 points on my first attempt,
then
> > Cisco discouraged me by telling my next attempt will be in May. I've
been
> > thinking to drop it completely but hell I can't let it go, so it's like
a
> > nightmare haunting me every night. And it's 5 months.
> > Another rumor I heard, even you are in the waiting list, you may not be
> > lucky to get earlier dates because Cisco will schedule people from
premium
> > partners or with training contract first. So this is like a priority
> > queueing instead of fq. Also if you are cisco employees, you are in the
> > priority queues too.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > Graham.Fagan@psir.ie
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:55 AM
> > To: achew@unmail.org; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: Backlog for CCIE Lab (RTP at least)
> >
> > Totally in agreement with you on this one. I failed by 2% on my first
> > attempt and have had to wait 5 months to get back for another chance.
This
> > means trying to maintain the momentum, which is not an easy task.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: achew@unmail.org [mailto:achew@unmail.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 4:46 PM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Backlog for CCIE Lab (RTP at least)
> >
> > A gripe from personal experience - anyone attempting the lab who is
> > _prepared_ should be able to make day 2... passing is another thing
since
> > day 2 morning is time compressed and points lost on day 1 don't help.
>From
> > what I'm told, 40% make it to day 2. That means 60% of the candidates
are
> > wasting everyone else's time (ok ok, that's questionable to some of you,
but
> > with _work_, I am absolutely _certain_ 1st timers can get to day 2
easily).
> >
> > The option would be to form multiple queues - one for 1st timers, one
for
> > retakes who got to day 2 (1 month minimum wait period), one for retakes
who
> > failed to get to day 2 (3 month minimum wait period - force them to
study
> > rather than coming back so soon). And the priority would be in the
order of
> > retakes of those who got to day 2, then 1st timers, then retakes who
failed
> > to get to day 2. This would discourage anyone who isn't sufficiently
> > prepared to attempt the lab.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@mentortech.com>
> > To: "'Price, Jamie'" <JPrice@isgteam.com>; "'Don Rogers'"
> > <drogers@icscorp.com>; "'tv'" <tvarriale@telocity.com>; "'Jonathan
Hays'"
> > <jhays@acropolis.com>
> > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:14 AM
> > Subject: RE: Backlog for CCIE Lab (RTP at least)
> >
> > > I certainly agree with you Jamie... The CCNP is a "career PATH"
towards
> > > CCIE, not a prerequisite, nor a real indication of readiness... if
you
> > were
> > > to REQUIRE that people take each and every one of the Cisco
> > instructor-lead
> > > courses, then you may be on a closer track, but even then, there's a
lot
> > of
> > > difference.
> > >
> > > If you want to reduce the backlog, put something in place like
> > verification
> > > of employment with REAL networks for "x" number of years, or something
> > like
> > > that... Though I assume that would meet with the same reaction as
> > requiring
> > > a CCNP. :)
> > >
> > > View the backlog as a good thing, or a bad thing...
> > >
> > > 1. it means more people are interested in the certification, so one
day,
> > > you may not be 6 months behind! (grin)
> > > 2. it means that more people have more money than they do common
sense
> > and
> > > are taking the exam anyway...
> > >
> > > *shrug* I don't think the backlog is all the big of a deal, it's one
of
> > > those things in life! Maybe it's all part of Cisco's psychology
strategy!
> > > Ya know. The time pressure and complexity is one thing, measuring how
a
> > > candidate deals with pressure. Perhaps the backlog in signing up for
the
> > > test is merely a way of exerting psychological pressure on the
patience of
> > > candidates! All in all, I don't believe any CCIE's are responsible
for
> > > "going postal" (apologies to any postal workers in the group!)..
So......
> > > Perhaps this delay is a good thing!
> > >
> > > All in all, relax, breathe deeply, and don't sweat it!
> > >
> > > Scott
> >
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