From: Pamela Forsyth (pforsyth@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Sat Dec 23 2000 - 18:25:39 GMT-3
Thanks, Chuck, for the lovely compliments. Of course, everyone is welcome
to view the cats. ;-) I think this link will work:
http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293362347
Getting back to the original off-topic topic . . .
With respect to the fact that networking seems to be a male-dominated
field, I agree totally. It is very difficult for women to get ahead,
especially to get that entry-level job relating to infrastructure rather
than server administration or end-user support.
Deborah Tannen has published a couple of books on gender-related
communication issues that I believe shed a lot of light on this topic:
"You Just Don't Understand," and "Talking from 9 to 5." Both were
best-sellers ten years or so ago and are probably still in print. Her
thesis is that men and women have very different goals in communicating
and this accounts for most of the misunderstandings that occur in
interpersonal relationships and in the workplace.
I have observed in job interviews (having been both interviewer and
interviewee) that women tend to be far more conservative about their
capabilities than they should, while most men will exaggerate quite a lot.
I know I've been turned down for jobs because I'm a woman. Guess they
couldn't see me doing my share of the heavy lifting.
I know three other female CCIEs personally, and several others by name and
reputation. I don't think the percentage is even close to being 20
percent as another respondent speculated here. My own estimate would be
less than 5 percent. The percentage of female students in my BSCN classes
is running less than 10.
Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to all out there.
Pamela
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>
> I have also had the distinct pleasure of meeting Pamela Forsythe, who in my
> early days on Groupstudy was particularly helpful and from whom I learned
> quite a bit - in attitude, comportment, as well as knowledge ) Pamela is
> very funny. I've got a link to her on-line photo album of her cats. Wonder
> if she'd mind if I shared it?
>
> Anyone know Clare Gough? I used her book with good result for the ACRC, and
> I've always felt I should buy her dinner as a thank you.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> radha rani
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 1:59 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Women CCIEs (Off topic)
>
> Just curious - how many women CCIEs are out there? This is a pretty
> male-dominated field. I know one and was curious as to the total number.
> Thanks.
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