From: Steve McNutt (lpd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Sun Dec 03 2000 - 13:31:27 GMT-3
My employer actively and willfully hindered my studies by giving me a big
stack of projects as my lab date was aproaching. I paid for my CCIE study
program out of my own pocket (and I mean everything, including books), with
no fancy classes, no mock labs, and I had to use my vacation time to cram
for the lab and to take the examiniation.
The one thing I had in my favor was that I did not have to build my own
practice rack. There is a local ISP who had some extra gear lying around
and in return for using the equipment I constructed and mainain a practice
lab/testbed for their engineers. Still had pay for a POTS simulator and
cabling, and put up with routers getting removed all the time, but it worked
out pretty well. I was also able to worm some rack time out of the local
cisco sales office and I rented one of Marc's racks for a day.
Anyway I managed to make it the first time, without classroom training, lots
of money, or employer support. Sweat equity, an understanding wife, and
desire can compensate for lack of resources.
I hope I'm not coming off as a braggert. I am just trying to point out that
you don't need to spend 25 grand and go to a bunch of classes and have
corporate sponsorship to do this thing (although those things would be
nice). Belive in yourself and make the most of what you have!
BTW, you can do most all of those CCbootcamp labs with fewer routers than
what is in the diagrams. Figure out what is important and what can be
removed and redesign the lab to fit what you have. Be creative. You can use
Dot1q or ISL if you don't have enough physical interfaces for example.
Adapt, overcome, succeed.
-s
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of G
F Marsh
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 12:14 PM
To: Tracy Blackmore; 'Kevin Baumgartner '; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Pitfalls
Some very good points Tracy.
Ideally, the backing of one's employer to allow time to study and pay for
the necessary hands on training and/or help in providing equipment to
practice is vital. Without this and the money to pay for a home lab or time
in virtual labs I think you are probably up against it!
GFM
----- Original Message -----
From: Tracy Blackmore <TracyB@TSLAD.com>
To: 'Kevin Baumgartner ' <kbaumgar@cisco.com>; Tracy Blackmore
<TracyB@TSLAD.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 7:26 PM
Subject: RE: Pitfalls
> I would have to say the bootcamp labs would be a great example. They are
> designed with several things to look out for (pitfalls.) I was just
looking
> for getting the common ones in one place.
>
> Some of us don't have the money to buy days (or weeks) of time on their
labs
> nor the money to build a nine router lab at home. On the job experience
is
> great but how often do you have to build a network with all of the items
> required for the CCIE and do it in two days (or even two months?)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Baumgartner
> To: Tracy Blackmore; 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
> Sent: 12/1/00 12:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Pitfalls
>
> I don't see how anyone that has already taken the lab can talk about
> general
> lab scenarios. Even if reworded. Still seems like NDA.
>
> So what exactly are "general" labs?
>
> Kevin
>
> At 10:46 AM 12/1/00 -0700, Tracy Blackmore wrote:
> >Group;
> >
> > I have read many briefs from people who have been to the lab,
> passed or
> >not. One thing that I would like to see/ask is...
> >
> >What are some of the major pitfalls to look for in general lab
> scenarios?
> >
> >I can gather several of them by reviewing the questions posted but it
> would
> >be nice to have a compilation of all of the major ones so that as we
> study,
> >we'll have an idea of pitfalls to look for.
> >
> >Thanks for any help you guys can provide!
> >
> >P.S. So as not to break the NDA, I have worded my question so as to
> gain
> >information on "general" labs. Please do not give exact problems faced
> in
> >the CCIE Lab.
> >
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