From: Tony Olzak (aolzak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Fri Dec 01 2000 - 17:59:33 GMT-3
I thought those two were good as wells as the basic VoIP CIM. As I do not
have access to any VoIP equipment, I thought I got some pretty good practice
on basic scenarios.
Tony
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Lemmons" <ericlemmons@yahoo.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: Cisco Interactive Mentor
> In regard to the original message about the IP routing CIM, I would
> say it does not come highly recommended. The labs are pretty basic,
> and there are only 5 or 6 labs total.
> It's better than nothing, I suppose.
> On the other hand I recommend the ISDN and the Switching CIMs. They
> don't have extensive labs, but they have some labs, and they pull
> together a lot of good study material. And if you don't have access
> to a Cat5k or an ISDN simulator, they can help fill that gap in your
> preparation.
>
> --- "Westmoreland, Alexis" <Alexis.Westmoreland@getronics.com> wrote:
> > I don't think you should necessarily send the All-in one book back.
> > If you
> > look it over you may find that it has some very good labs in it.
> > No, it is
> > not the only book that you need, but there is not one book that
> > covers
> > everything that you need. if it teaches you something that you
> > didn't know,
> > then it is good. I didn't buy this book originally because of these
> > lists,
> > so when I did get it, I wished that I had gotten it sooner. It is
> > great for
> > getting you started and it can fill in some gaps from Caslow's
> > book. It also
> > helps because it gives you a little theory, hopefully it is a
> > review. Then
> > it gives you a lab, while explaining the individual commands. After
> > you get
> > a basic understanding you can get deeper info from other books or
> > the Cisco
> > site.
> >
> > If you are at the CCIE level then maybe it is too simple for you. I
> > have
> > seen many people that were at the CCIE level that used this book.
> > It wasn't
> > the only thing that got them there but it did help. I am sure that
> > most
> > people on this list is not at CCIE level.
> >
> > Just make sure that you have rev. 1, I heard that the 2nd edition
> > shucks. It
> > has to much theory and hardly any labs.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fenris [mailto:ccie_study@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 2:41 AM
> > To: Lampron, George
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Cisco Interactive Mentor
> >
> >
> > Mate,
> >
> > If you find them helpful, no.
> > Sorry I see that the word "LAB" was missing from my statement. Let
> > me
> > clarify : IMHO the "All-in-one Lab study guide" also gives an
> > unrealistic
> > impression of the LAB.
> >
> > Fenris
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lampron, George" <glampron@den.ipalliance.net>
> > To: "'Fenris'" <ccie_study@hotmail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 4:09 PM
> > Subject: RE: Cisco Interactive Mentor
> >
> >
> > > So the mcGraw hill books I got I should send back?
> > > G
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Fenris [mailto:ccie_study@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 2:44 AM
> > > To: Jimmi1015@aol.com
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: Cisco Interactive Mentor
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > I bought this product exactly because of the declaration that it
> > was good
> > > for practicing for the CCIE lab. I have sent it back for a
> > refund!
> > > I have already attempted the lab (& failed!) and I don't believe
> > I am
> > > breaking the NDA by stating that this product is NOT good
> > practice for the
> > > lab.
> > > It is very good as far as it goes. It appears to be a stable
> > product that
> > > would be good as an introduction to the concepts needed for the
> > CCIE but
> > it
> > > does not go far enough. It is a very good product for the CCNP
> > candidate
> > but
> > > not a CCIE candidate. F.Y.I., I have the same opinion of the
> > "All-in-one
> > > CCIE Study Guide" published by McGraw Hill.
> > >
> > > To put this in context : It took me 45 minutes to complete ALL of
> > the labs
> > > on this CD. This is a lot of practice.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Fenris
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Jimmi1015@aol.com>
> > > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 10:00 PM
> > > Subject: Cisco Interactive Mentor
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi one and all,
> > > >
> > > > Today, I noticed my neighborhood bookstore selling the IP
> > Routing CIM
> > for
> > > > $150. The packaging declares that this product will provide
> > you with
> > > > "practice scenarios" that are similiar to those we will find in
> > the
> > actual
> > > > ccie lab. I wonder if anyone who has already worked with this
> > product
> > > feels
> > > > that this is a good product to use in preparing for the lab.
> > Please let
> > > me
> > > > know what your thoughts are. I think there are many people on
> > this list
> > > who
> > > > would be interested to know your opinions about CIM.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
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