From: Eric Lemmons (ericlemmons@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Fri Dec 01 2000 - 12:53:37 GMT-3
In regard to the original message about the IP routing CIM, I would
say it does not come highly recommended. The labs are pretty basic,
and there are only 5 or 6 labs total.
It's better than nothing, I suppose.
On the other hand I recommend the ISDN and the Switching CIMs. They
don't have extensive labs, but they have some labs, and they pull
together a lot of good study material. And if you don't have access
to a Cat5k or an ISDN simulator, they can help fill that gap in your
preparation.
--- "Westmoreland, Alexis" <Alexis.Westmoreland@getronics.com> wrote:
> I don't think you should necessarily send the All-in one book back.
> If you
> look it over you may find that it has some very good labs in it.
> No, it is
> not the only book that you need, but there is not one book that
> covers
> everything that you need. if it teaches you something that you
> didn't know,
> then it is good. I didn't buy this book originally because of these
> lists,
> so when I did get it, I wished that I had gotten it sooner. It is
> great for
> getting you started and it can fill in some gaps from Caslow's
> book. It also
> helps because it gives you a little theory, hopefully it is a
> review. Then
> it gives you a lab, while explaining the individual commands. After
> you get
> a basic understanding you can get deeper info from other books or
> the Cisco
> site.
>
> If you are at the CCIE level then maybe it is too simple for you. I
> have
> seen many people that were at the CCIE level that used this book.
> It wasn't
> the only thing that got them there but it did help. I am sure that
> most
> people on this list is not at CCIE level.
>
> Just make sure that you have rev. 1, I heard that the 2nd edition
> shucks. It
> has to much theory and hardly any labs.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fenris [mailto:ccie_study@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 2:41 AM
> To: Lampron, George
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Cisco Interactive Mentor
>
>
> Mate,
>
> If you find them helpful, no.
> Sorry I see that the word "LAB" was missing from my statement. Let
> me
> clarify : IMHO the "All-in-one Lab study guide" also gives an
> unrealistic
> impression of the LAB.
>
> Fenris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lampron, George" <glampron@den.ipalliance.net>
> To: "'Fenris'" <ccie_study@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 4:09 PM
> Subject: RE: Cisco Interactive Mentor
>
>
> > So the mcGraw hill books I got I should send back?
> > G
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fenris [mailto:ccie_study@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 2:44 AM
> > To: Jimmi1015@aol.com
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Cisco Interactive Mentor
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > I bought this product exactly because of the declaration that it
> was good
> > for practicing for the CCIE lab. I have sent it back for a
> refund!
> > I have already attempted the lab (& failed!) and I don't believe
> I am
> > breaking the NDA by stating that this product is NOT good
> practice for the
> > lab.
> > It is very good as far as it goes. It appears to be a stable
> product that
> > would be good as an introduction to the concepts needed for the
> CCIE but
> it
> > does not go far enough. It is a very good product for the CCNP
> candidate
> but
> > not a CCIE candidate. F.Y.I., I have the same opinion of the
> "All-in-one
> > CCIE Study Guide" published by McGraw Hill.
> >
> > To put this in context : It took me 45 minutes to complete ALL of
> the labs
> > on this CD. This is a lot of practice.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Fenris
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Jimmi1015@aol.com>
> > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 10:00 PM
> > Subject: Cisco Interactive Mentor
> >
> >
> > > Hi one and all,
> > >
> > > Today, I noticed my neighborhood bookstore selling the IP
> Routing CIM
> for
> > > $150. The packaging declares that this product will provide
> you with
> > > "practice scenarios" that are similiar to those we will find in
> the
> actual
> > > ccie lab. I wonder if anyone who has already worked with this
> product
> > feels
> > > that this is a good product to use in preparing for the lab.
> Please let
> > me
> > > know what your thoughts are. I think there are many people on
> this list
> > who
> > > would be interested to know your opinions about CIM.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
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