From: John Conzone (jkconzone@xxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Nov 01 2000 - 09:02:03 GMT-3
I agree with Chris. The bootcamp labs are a valuable tool and worth the
investment, IMHO.
There is no one magic bullet for passing the lab as far as I can see.
I'm still trying. One needs to use a variety of sources for info, and
practice a lot!
For me, the bootcamp labs are helping me get down a lot of the core
technologies, which they are full of. The other stuff which Cisco pulled,
like X.25 and Decnet is on there, but a very small amount. There was a fair
amount of ATM, both PVC's, SVC's and LANE. The PVC and SVC stuff will still
be useful.The stuff you need to practice like ospf, bgp, eigrp, etc., is on
them in much greater volume and are the majority of technologies, by far
that you will find in these labs.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kotte, Christopher" <Christopher.Kotte@netigy.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:02 PM
Subject: RE: ccbootcamp scenarios
> As a user of the bootcamp labs I can say that for me they are a great
> purchase (i have 8 routers and can do most of the labs). The whole reason
I
> purchased the labs was to find challenging scenarios that were all ready
> created so I didn't have to spend the extra time creating difficult labs
> myself...
>
> The main thing that I have tried to focus on during my quest for the
coveted
> CCIE, is being able to pull from a lot of resources different scenarios
> (fatkid, ccbootcamp, ASET, ANEW, Caslow, and even CCO..) that will
challenge
> me in different ways and enable me to master the technology in messed up
> settings...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: 10/30/00 5:38 PM
> Subject: Re: ccbootcamp scenarios
>
> I bought the ccbootcamp labs a couple of weeks ago. I DO NOT recommend
> them
> at all.
>
> First of all they require to much equipment (7 to 10 routers plus ISDN,
> ATM,
> ect, ect..) If you want to look at sample config's cisco has a bunch and
> they are all free!!!!
>
> Second thing is once you buy them your pretty much on your own. They say
> they will answer up to 3 e-mail questions (gee thanks). I asked two
> questions and only got one answer after sending 4 or 5 e-mail's over a
> 10
> day period. It sure is funny that they have time to promote thier labs
> via
> this studygroup but when you ask a question they are no where to be
> found.
>
>
> It looks like LANE, ISIS, LAT and DECnet have been removed from the lab.
> Half of the labs only cover these technologies...
>
>
>
> Brett Harper - CCIE# 6368
>
>
>
> > For new comers in CCIE lab I would say that the CCIEBOOTCAMP will
> helpful
> > for them to understand the basic skills, but there's still a long long
> > distance to the real lab, especially in the Troubleshooting section.
> > Password recovery is really a easy stuff, but when 6 routers must be
> > recovered in 15 minutes would not be a piece a cake. This is just a
> example.
> >
> > We must do practice more as we could to gain enough SKILLS for the
> exam.
> > This is very important.
> >
> > Jack Chang (CHEN YANG ZHANG)
> > CCSI, CCIE #6258
> > Project Manager & Consultant
> > Training Partners Pte Ltd.
> > jack.zhang@training-partners.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jarrod Mills" <jarrod.mills@bellnetworks.com>
> > > To: "Jack Chang" <jack.zhang@training-partners.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 3:03 AM
> > > Subject: Re: ccbootcamp scenarios
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jack,
> > > >
> > > > What makes you so sure that the labs are not suitable? I have
> used
> > these
> > > > labs are they are quite extensive and in depth. They may not
> mirror
> the
> > > > real exam in every way, but you would be hard pressed to find more
> > > realistic
> > > > lab scenarios. Have you used these labs? What did you use to
> prepare?
> > > > Some supporting evidence to your sweeping claims would be nice.
> > > >
> > > > Jarrod
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Jack Chang <jack.zhang@training-partners.com>
> > > > To: Kevin Baumgartner <kbaumgar@cisco.com>
> > > > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 12:05 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: ccbootcamp scenarios
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I do NOT think that the cciebootcamp lab exams will be suitable
> for
> > the
> > > > > real ccie lab.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jack Chang (CHEN YANG ZHANG)
> > > > > CCSI, CCIE #6258
> > > > > Project Manager & Consultant
> > > > > Training Partners Pte Ltd.
> > > > > jack.zhang@training-partners.com
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Kevin Baumgartner" <kbaumgar@cisco.com>
> > > > > To: "Andrew" <arousch@home.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 1:21 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: ccbootcamp scenarios
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > The scenerios are print documents. No electronic documents.
> > > > > > My guess is that ccbootcamp doesn't want these to be easily
> > > distributed.
> > > > > > The router configuration answers are electronic text
> documents.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 10:34 AM 10/31/00 -0600, Andrew wrote:
> > > > > > >Do these come in pdf format or some other portable format
> that I
> > can
> > > > > transport with me (and between platforms?) Or are these
> strictly
> some
> > > > sort
> > > > > of online documents?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >-Thanks
> > > > > > >
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