From: Kotte, Christopher (Christopher.Kotte@xxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Nov 01 2000 - 00:02:32 GMT-3
As a user of the bootcamp labs I can say that for me they are a great
purchase (i have 8 routers and can do most of the labs). The whole reason I
purchased the labs was to find challenging scenarios that were all ready
created so I didn't have to spend the extra time creating difficult labs
myself...
The main thing that I have tried to focus on during my quest for the coveted
CCIE, is being able to pull from a lot of resources different scenarios
(fatkid, ccbootcamp, ASET, ANEW, Caslow, and even CCO..) that will challenge
me in different ways and enable me to master the technology in messed up
settings...
-----Original Message-----
From: Brett
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Sent: 10/30/00 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: ccbootcamp scenarios
I bought the ccbootcamp labs a couple of weeks ago. I DO NOT recommend
them
at all.
First of all they require to much equipment (7 to 10 routers plus ISDN,
ATM,
ect, ect..) If you want to look at sample config's cisco has a bunch and
they are all free!!!!
Second thing is once you buy them your pretty much on your own. They say
they will answer up to 3 e-mail questions (gee thanks). I asked two
questions and only got one answer after sending 4 or 5 e-mail's over a
10
day period. It sure is funny that they have time to promote thier labs
via
this studygroup but when you ask a question they are no where to be
found.
It looks like LANE, ISIS, LAT and DECnet have been removed from the lab.
Half of the labs only cover these technologies...
Brett Harper - CCIE# 6368
> For new comers in CCIE lab I would say that the CCIEBOOTCAMP will
helpful
> for them to understand the basic skills, but there's still a long long
> distance to the real lab, especially in the Troubleshooting section.
> Password recovery is really a easy stuff, but when 6 routers must be
> recovered in 15 minutes would not be a piece a cake. This is just a
example.
>
> We must do practice more as we could to gain enough SKILLS for the
exam.
> This is very important.
>
> Jack Chang (CHEN YANG ZHANG)
> CCSI, CCIE #6258
> Project Manager & Consultant
> Training Partners Pte Ltd.
> jack.zhang@training-partners.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jarrod Mills" <jarrod.mills@bellnetworks.com>
> > To: "Jack Chang" <jack.zhang@training-partners.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 3:03 AM
> > Subject: Re: ccbootcamp scenarios
> >
> >
> > > Jack,
> > >
> > > What makes you so sure that the labs are not suitable? I have
used
> these
> > > labs are they are quite extensive and in depth. They may not
mirror
the
> > > real exam in every way, but you would be hard pressed to find more
> > realistic
> > > lab scenarios. Have you used these labs? What did you use to
prepare?
> > > Some supporting evidence to your sweeping claims would be nice.
> > >
> > > Jarrod
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jack Chang <jack.zhang@training-partners.com>
> > > To: Kevin Baumgartner <kbaumgar@cisco.com>
> > > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 12:05 PM
> > > Subject: Re: ccbootcamp scenarios
> > >
> > >
> > > > I do NOT think that the cciebootcamp lab exams will be suitable
for
> the
> > > > real ccie lab.
> > > >
> > > > Jack Chang (CHEN YANG ZHANG)
> > > > CCSI, CCIE #6258
> > > > Project Manager & Consultant
> > > > Training Partners Pte Ltd.
> > > > jack.zhang@training-partners.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Kevin Baumgartner" <kbaumgar@cisco.com>
> > > > To: "Andrew" <arousch@home.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 1:21 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: ccbootcamp scenarios
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The scenerios are print documents. No electronic documents.
> > > > > My guess is that ccbootcamp doesn't want these to be easily
> > distributed.
> > > > > The router configuration answers are electronic text
documents.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 10:34 AM 10/31/00 -0600, Andrew wrote:
> > > > > >Do these come in pdf format or some other portable format
that I
> can
> > > > transport with me (and between platforms?) Or are these
strictly
some
> > > sort
> > > > of online documents?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-Thanks
> > > > > >
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