From: Dave Humphrey (dave.humphrey@xxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Oct 10 2000 - 07:52:46 GMT-3
The point for me is that CCIE is still the only qualification in the networking
business that
carries any credibility. It is difficult, it requires effort and you learn a lo
t about the
technologies of networking, not just the cisco perspective. It is also a practi
cal test of
your ability to work under pressure, understand the issues etc. The other certi
fications that
I have knowledge of do not provide any real measures of skill other than book l
earning.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Vito Trimlett
Sent: 10 October 2000 00:49
To: Ray Fisherman
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Re:??? Ok. Lets End the JNPR thread <EOM> :-)
Well, the point is Ray that Juniper holds about 22%-25% of the high end
market. Cisco holds 75-80% of the "entire market" . Now, if in the event
Cisco loses even 20-30% of the market over the next 3 years, they would
still have 50% of the market with a assortment of other companies holding
the other half. It is also a way for employers to gauge your level of
expertise without knowing you and justifies the hefty salary that you are
going to request. Combine this with the fact that Cisco has launched
programs for high school kids. This tells informed people that the talent
pool in the next 2-4 years will have a Cisco Centric skill set. This in turn
will make companies more inclined to use a product that the majority of the
work force already is familiar with. Now I love Juniper, but Cisco did not
get where they are without covering most of the bases.
I hope this somewhat answers your question .
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Fisherman <rfish68@hotmail.com>
To: ccie <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:43 PM
Subject: Fw: Re:??? Ok. Lets End the JNPR thread <EOM> :-)
> I have sent this a few days ago, I guess it did go through because the
mail
> problem.
> I need to send this again.
> It's really the thing we should discuss.
> If juniper come in get bigger market than Cisco which is happening now,
what
> is the point to get the CCIE?
> Just like if you already see the Microsoft got the market, why should you
> waste
> time to study the CNE (Novell Certified Engineer) in stead of getting the
> MCSE or study what is going on with the Microsoft. even you know the
Novell
> will be there for while but you have to get back study the MCSE anyway.
> my0.02$
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray Fisherman" <rfish68@hotmail.com>
> To: "Andrew" <arousch@home.com>
> Cc: "ccie" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re:??? Ok. Lets End the JNPR thread <EOM> :-)
>
>
> > It's really the thing we should discuss.
> > If juniper come in get bigger market than Cisco which is happening now,
> what
> > is the point to get the CCIE?
> > Just like if you already see the Microsoft got market, why should you
> waste
> > time to study the CNE (Novell Certified Engineer) in stead of getting
the
> > MCSE or study what is going on with the Microsoft. even you know the
> Novell
> > will be there for while but you have to get back study the MCSE anyway.
> > my0.02$
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew" <arousch@home.com>
> > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 11:32 AM
> > Subject: Ok. Lets End the JNPR thread <EOM> :-)
> >
> >
> > >
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