From: Marc Russell (mrussell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Fri Sep 22 2000 - 00:59:12 GMT-3
The site is for Cisco and Cisco authorized resellers. If you are one of
these people you can get rack time for free as long as you meet some of
their guidelines. These aren't test questions just a resource to help
employees that work for Cisco or a Cisco authorized reseller.
Marc Russell
CCIE Boot Camp
www.ccbootcamp.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Baumgartner [mailto:kbaumgar@cisco.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 10:39 PM
To: kaushik@dnaco.net
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: NDA violations with this group- OK
Why do you think this is a Cisco internal site?
All it says is that it's a "site dedicated to the advancement
of computer systems professionals within Cisco partners and
resellers". Why can't this be a private company that provides
training to Cisco partners? It may or may not have any relationship
with Cisco. And Cisco may or may not certify this training
with this company.
I could create my own company and also say that my company
provides professional training for Cisco partners and resellers.
Does that mean Cisco certified this? Again maybe but maybe not.
I am not say that this company is not certified with Cisco.
I don't know. There are a lot of companies that seems to be
getting into training and certification. Some very good and
some questionable.
Kevin
>
> wow! what a site - wish I had something like this to practice on
before going for my test!
>
> And they give you the lab setup for free.... Hope cciebootcamp is
looking at this site ;)
>
> And this is from Cisco themselves.
>
> Wow! words escape me!
> kaushik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Burgstaller, Oliver [SMTP:BurgstallerO@messe-duesseldorf.de]
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 2:50 AM
> To: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
> Subject: WG: NDA violations with this group- OK
>
> Sorry, last topic on NDA
>
> see this web side http://www.midwestlabs.net/ and the LABS this is
against
> NDA because now all of us know now 80% of the CCIE LABS and it is from
CISCO
> SYSTEM internal. So now think about all the CNE and CCIE in this
world.
>
> Oliver
>
> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Vito Trimlett [mailto:Vito.Trimlett@callisma.com]
> Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 20. September 2000 22:59
> An: Kevin Baumgartner; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Betreff: Re: NDA violations with this group- OK
>
> With all due respect to everyone, can we move on. There are enough
e-mails
> to sift through on technology nevermind protocol and semantics on this
> subject. So can we get back on track.
>
> Yours truly,
> Vito
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Baumgartner <kbaumgar@cisco.com>
> To: ccnp today <ccnp_to_be@yahoo.com>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 4:35 PM
> Subject: Re: NDA violations with this group
>
>
> > Not all of us that are complaining about NDA are CCIE's!
> >
> > I don't agree with you that what does it matter if someone
> > lets this stuff out. Your response is that if this gets out
> > it won't help passing the test anyway. Well if that's the
> > case why give out this too begin with.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > At 12:27 PM 9/20/00 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Why is it some of you CCIEs only get involved in this
> > >group to preach to us about the NDA? From my own
> > >personal experience with some recent CCIEs, they don't
> > >seem to care that much about violating the NDA policy
> > >BEFORE they take the test (and I can point to several
> > >who shared their previous labs with me) but boy does
> > >their opinion change once they get their cert! Then it
> > >was only by their hard work and dedication they
> > >passed. Not that I don't understand it, that's
> > >probably how I'll act too! I just can't stomach the
> > >whining! As if telling someone that multicasting will
> > >be on the exam will help them pass, give me a break.
> > >Feel free to flame!
> > >
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