From: Scott Morris (smorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Sep 21 2000 - 01:36:59 GMT-3
The AS5x00's and PIX Firewalls can easily be found on E-Bay... The prices
fluctuate greatly, so you'll have to watch them for a while...
I haven't found any good outlets on the DSLAMs or the Cable gear though. :)
So I'm resigning myself to making it up as I go along at this point. You
can take classes on the cable gear, it's ICCR and I think it's 3 days long.
Mentor Technologies (formerly Chesapeake) offers the classes too, and
they're more fun! (grin)
I'm not sure on the DSLAMs. The 6200 series is listed on the exam. In past
jobs, I've provisioned the 6100 series ones, but that doesn't really help
much. And I'm not sure of any courses (other than internal to Cisco) that
allow access to those.
What I would recommend, is if you are associated with a Cisco Partner, to
gain access to one of their labs across the country. That'll likely be the
best thing you can do.
Otherwise, I guess we'll really define the "expert" in being able to react
in situations where we don't have a clue! :) It just hurts a little...
Scott Morris, MCSE, CNE(3.x), CCDP (R&S), CCIE (R&S) #4713, Security
Specialization, CCNA - WAN Switching
CCSI #21903
smorris@mentortech.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
kaushik
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 11:56 PM
To: 'David Ankers'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Please Help
David,
I would agree with you on the equipment - it is expensive getting your
hands on a AS5x00 and PIX, let alone cable or DSL equipment. I don't think
anyone has a DSLAM to practice on - maybe I am wrong... Although Cisco did
come out with the PIX 506, a smaller, cheaper, but full implementation of
the PIX firewall.
>From my experience level - this is the direction I would very much like to
go down and thus I too, am learning, reading, researching, etc for the ISP
Dial. lacking the equipment though is going to be a problem - unless you
can find work with an ISP and/or cable provider? There are some courses
now, at least in the US from GlobalKnowledge which will at least get you
some hands on. Check their web site.
And practice is definitely what is needed, with Cisco's latest updates on
the ISP Dial exam....
sorry, cannot help any further
kaushik roy
ccie #5534 (R&S)
-----Original Message-----
From: David Ankers [SMTP:d.ankers@cable.a2000.nl]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:32 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Please Help
Group,
I have to ask this, is anyone else on this list doing ISP dial or is it
just me? It seemed like a good track at the time as most of my experience
is with ISPs but finding good study material (i.e. Sample labs - ccbootcamp
etc) is very hard. The new tech also seems a bit daunting and not many isps
run both Cable and DSL and especially not many of the large deployments in
these areas are using Cisco kit. I have 6 routers at home but of course no
PIX, AS5300 and naturally non of the expensive Cable / DSL kit. I'm missing
a lot of the lab, the R/S doesn't pose to much of a problem in this area,
I'm missing ATM and VoIP + a cat for the R/S but these are availible via
online labs / training courses mentioned below.
Training is also an issue, global knowledge, azlan et al all do 2 weeks
pure lab exam training which I gather is very good but only for the R/S
lab..... I'm starting to think the ISP was a mistake for me and furthermore
I have to go to either SJ or Halifax for the ISP lab but I can take the R/S
in Brussels which is a lot more convient (and cheaper) as I'm in Holland.
I would sincerly apreciate your thoughts on this, of course you don't know
my situation exactly but given the above, am I barking up the wrong tree?
Also if you know any courses for the ISP dial specifically pre lab prep or
online labs I would be VERY grateful. Sorry to bother the list with this,
but it's an important step as I'm fairly good in the technologies that
overlap both exams and just about to get the unknown and I've come up with
a real resource problems on the ISP dial front.
Thanks you for your time.
Regards,
David.
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