From: Kent (cciecn@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Sep 06 2000 - 14:39:14 GMT-3
Probably nobody forced you, but how do you know
my case?
--- zhencai <zhencai@home.com> wrote:
> Dude,
>
> Nobody forces you to take the STUPID test. If you
> think the test is stupid
> but you still want to take it, you've got some
> mental problems...
>
> No offense, but calm down...
>
>
> A guy with stupid cert.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Kent
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 9:28 AM
> To: Kevin Gannon; Jesmond Psaila; fixi mixi;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: troubleshooting in brussels
>
>
> I was told the trouble shooting is the easiest part,
> but if like what you guys saying, correct 50-60
> wrong
> ip address in 2 hours, what's point of Cisco for
> doing
> this?
> So the CCIEs are guys can type faster than CCNPs?
> I have not got my CCIE, but I have seen the lab,
> from
> what I can tell, CCIE stuff is pretty stupid if
> consider the reputation it has. I have been working
> with many engineers and some of them just could not
> get CCIE after many tries, but I can say not any of
> them is not as good as the guys who passed at their
> first try. I know this is just claiming, because
> people just pay for the title, this is the reality,
> so
> we have to bend to the world which is ruled by
> stupid
> rules.
>
>
>
>
> --- Kevin Gannon <kevin@gannons.net> wrote:
> > I also did brussels about 3 months ago now and
> never
> > got to day two.
> > The proctor IMHO was less than helpful in the long
> > walk back to the
> > exam room he asked when did I plan on comming back
> > :( and then
> > he simply said that he hadnt time to go thorugh
> all
> > my mistakes
> > yet told me a did very well in DLSW which killed
> me
> > as I am very weak
> > in that area.
> >
> > I knew I wasnt going to day two but he could have
> > given me some
> > pointers. I was so annoyed I didnt go into day two
> > to try and redo
> > the configs as I felt that he was no help then and
> > wouldnt have been
> > any help the next day.
> >
> > I am still trying to get the motivation to go back
> > and start studying again
> > I havent looked at my rack since then.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jesmond Psaila <jpsaila@prudent.net.au>
> > To: fixi mixi <mfixi@hotmail.com>;
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 2:43 AM
> > Subject: RE: troubleshooting in brussels
> >
> >
> > > Derek,
> > >
> > > At lease you had the luxury of the proctor going
> > through the first day lab
> > > with you in detail.
> > >
> > > In Sydney the morning after your first day you
> get
> > told yes or no. I tried
> > > to extract information out of him to know what I
> > did wrong but no success.
> > >
> > > Everybody out there what is the ruling on this,
> > what level of feedback are
> > > you entitled to, It makes it very frustrating
> not
> > to know what questions
> > you
> > > got wrong or right.
> > >
> > >
> > > jesmond
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > > fixi mixi
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 11:53 PM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: troubleshooting in brussels
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This is the story of my lab exam.
> > > I flew to Brussels feeling no chance on the exam
> > next day. My goal was to
> > > make it to the 2nd day.
> > > So I went there on the next morning feeling not
> > particularly excited
> > knowing
> > > the final result anyway. Then we got the
> questions
> > handed out. I looked
> > > through it and I didnt find it too difficult for
> > the first sight. At that
> > > moment I got excited. Can I make it for the 2nd
> > day? So I did my best. At
> > > the end of the day I felt that I wouldn't be
> > surprised if I was told to go
> > > on next day too.
> > > The proctor graded our work and called us one by
> > one. We went trough
> > > together on my configs. The proctor asked me
> > questions pointing out my
> > > mistakes. Since he didnt asked me serious
> > questions I assumed that I made
> > > the first day. My assumtion was right. He said
> > that we will see eachother
> > > the next day. He didnt tell me points.
> > >
> > > Next morning I went there knowing that I reached
> > my goal, the 2nd day. The
> > > questions were not too difficult again, so I
> > thought I have even chance to
> > > make it for the troubleshooting? At lunch time I
> > was pretty confident that
> > I
> > > can go for troubleshooting. And I thought, what
> is
> > troubleshooting, there
> > is
> > > nothing to it, a few passwd recovery, playing
> with
> > vlans on the cat, a few
> > > ip address changes, intf shutdowns, ospf area
> > changes and it works. So it
> > > was so. After lunch it turned out that 3 of us
> can
> > go for ts.
> > > There was only 2 hours for that. I started. Two
> > pwd recovery, seems
> > nothing.
> > > I changed few params on the cat which were
> crucial
> > and i even changed back
> > > the hostname. I thought it was important. In
> fact
> > it was not. I went for
> > the
> > > routers. I spent a few minutes with changing
> > nonsense (hostnames,
> > > passwds...). Then I thought lets make the
> > connectivity work. I realised
> > that
> > > they changed lots of ip addresses. In fact they
> > changed almost all of
> > them.
> > > I looked at ospf. It was totally messed up.
> > Redistribution between routing
> > > protocols? Filters for redistribution? Nothing
> > worked. I didnt even dare
> > to
> > > look at bgp.
> > > So frankly speaking I had to reconfigure the
> whole
> > IP staff with routing.
> > I
> > > had to reconfigure the whole framerelay stuff.
> > Delete subintfs which
> > > involves to reboot your routers again. (3mins)
> > >
> > > IPX and Apple were also in bad shape. None of my
> > previously configured IPX
>
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