From: Shaun Nicholson (Shaun.Nicholson@xxxxxx)
Date: Wed Aug 30 2000 - 13:40:26 GMT-3
You were not harsh at all.
You should not be on this list unless you have completed the written test.
I get sick of hearing from CNE and MCSE who say Oh I'm going to get my CCIE nex
t they then take one look at whats requred ask me what they really need to know
to get through and when are confronted with having to acctually know lots of t
hings and not just the basic of the basics never mention it again.
The NDA is there for a reason to keep value on the CCIE and people who want a q
uick fix to get the CCIE should be discouraged at all turns not only for the CC
IE program but also for there own pocket because its not cheap either in $ or t
ime. I currently study (Lab and Written) in the region of 30hours a week plus m
y job time (network Engineering) another 40 a week. There are times like when I
failed last month that I think thats not enougth.
Shaun
bhescock@cisco.com on 08/30/2000 11:47:00 AM
To: nkhawaja@wgate.com@Internet
cc: ciscokid00@hotmail.com@Internet, cisco@groupstudy.com@Internet, CCIElab
@groupstudy.com@Internet (bcc: Shaun Nicholson/MD/KAIPERM)
Subject: RE: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.
Nadeem,
Hi, while Dale may have been a little hard on you, CCIE certification
isn't a quick and easy endeavor like CNE or MCSE (I know, I have both of
them). You're expected to know all items in the blue print, maybe not
extensively but you should be familiar with them. So in that regard I
have to agree with Dale somewhat that if it's too much information for you
to cover then the CCIE certification might not be what you're looking
for. The CCIE isn't a watered-down exam like all the others in the
industry, it's very difficult by design and basically requires you to put
the rest of your life on hold while you pursue it. Passing the CCIE
written is far easier than passing the lab.
Brian
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Nadeem Khawaja wrote:
> Mr. Dale!
>
> Your answer is a humiliating slang on all who wants to pursue there career
> certification. This slap is not only on me but to all of you who are CCIE or
> going towards it. Indeed I have been going through the archives and found
> some ideas but there are so many peoples with different ideas that they
> confused me on what to read and what to study. So I decided to read all the
> books one by one. After I went through couple of books I figured out my self
> where am I standing but could not. Since the blue print is too much to cover
> and is very vague. The Cisco Blue prints covers almost everything and that
> is too much to go for.
> Thanks for your advise and the slang to every CCIE or newcomer
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Nadeem Khawaja
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dale Holmes [mailto:ciscokid00@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:10 AM
> To: nkhawaja@wgate.com; cisco@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.
>
>
> If you had been continuously READING the messages on groupstudy mailing
> lists, including the archives, you would long ago have found what you
> needed.
>
> At this point in your endeavor, I can only suggest that you consider NOT
> taking the exam, and instead look into other career paths where the entry
> steps are more clearly laid out, such as:
>
> taxi driver
> used automobile salesman
> newspaper carrier
> elevator operator
>
> There are many others that may appeal to you. If you find that you simply
> cannot let go of the notion that you should become a Cisco Certified
> Internetwork Expert, then you might check out the Exam Blueprint at
> www.cisco.com.
>
> Good Luck!
>
>
> >From: Nadeem Khawaja <nkhawaja@wgate.com>
> >Reply-To: Nadeem Khawaja <nkhawaja@wgate.com>
> >To: "'cisco@groupstudy.com'" <cisco@groupstudy.com>,
> >"'ccielab@groupstudy.com'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.
> >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:30:49 -0400
> >
> >Hi Gurus!
> >
> >I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on both
> >the mailling lists at groupstudy.com but have not received any proper
> >response regarding it.
> >Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it, what
> >ever you can provide.
> >e.g what exactly to study.
> >from where to study
> >what sort of questions comes
> >how usefull is subscription to ccpre.com
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
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