RE: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

From: Dale Holmes (ciscokid00@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Aug 30 2000 - 12:34:55 GMT-3


   
Nadeem,

My original response was meant partly as humor, but also as a statement of
reality...

You state in your reply:
"The Cisco Blue prints covers almost everything, and that
is too much to go for."

I suspected that this was your attitude and that is why I wrote as I did.
This one sentence which you have written, which stems from a deeper attitude
within you, is the single reason which you will fail.

I cannot sugar-coat it for you. If you truly believe what you have said,
then you will not succeed. I cannot encourage you to go forth with that
attitude, because you will be in for a long road of heartache and
disappointment. This is a fact.

Yes, the exam blueprint is extensive. BUT, an understanding of EVERY single
topic on the list IS an attainable goal, AND - it is THE GOAL you must set
for yourself if you want to get the CCIE. There are no shortcuts.

No question you can ask anyone on any list will change the fact that you
must cover all of this material, and only you can do the work. If you
demonstrate to this list an appetite for learning, and an earnest effort to
obtain that learning, the I (and everyone else here) will help you in any
way we can. BUT, when you come to the list begging for, or worse yet -
demanding shortcuts and handouts, then the best advice I can offer you is to
seek another path.

This is sincere advice, not sarcasm or bitter discouragement. Consider
carefully your motivation for attaining the CCIE, and your commitment to the
task. Then, if you find that you still want it, start again with the Exam
Blueprint (and the resultant BIG pile of books). This is the road we all
follow... and you will see us all, some ahead of you and some behind you,
moving at different speeds, but all in the same direction.

Once again, Good Luck!

Dale
[=`)

>From: Nadeem Khawaja <nkhawaja@wgate.com>
>Reply-To: Nadeem Khawaja <nkhawaja@wgate.com>
>To: "'Dale Holmes'" <ciscokid00@hotmail.com>, cisco@groupstudy.com,
>ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:21:53 -0400
>
>Mr. Dale!
>
>Your answer is a humiliating slang on all who wants to pursue there career
>certification. This slap is not only on me but to all of you who are CCIE
>or
>going towards it. Indeed I have been going through the archives and found
>some ideas but there are so many peoples with different ideas that they
>confused me on what to read and what to study. So I decided to read all the
>books one by one. After I went through couple of books I figured out my
>self
>where am I standing but could not. Since the blue print is too much to
>cover
>and is very vague. The Cisco Blue prints covers almost everything and that
>is too much to go for.
>Thanks for your advise and the slang to every CCIE or newcomer
>
>
>
>Regards,
>Nadeem Khawaja
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dale Holmes [mailto:ciscokid00@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:10 AM
>To: nkhawaja@wgate.com; cisco@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Re: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.
>
>
>If you had been continuously READING the messages on groupstudy mailing
>lists, including the archives, you would long ago have found what you
>needed.
>
>At this point in your endeavor, I can only suggest that you consider NOT
>taking the exam, and instead look into other career paths where the entry
>steps are more clearly laid out, such as:
>
>taxi driver
>used automobile salesman
>newspaper carrier
>elevator operator
>
>There are many others that may appeal to you. If you find that you simply
>cannot let go of the notion that you should become a Cisco Certified
>Internetwork Expert, then you might check out the Exam Blueprint at
>www.cisco.com.
>
>Good Luck!
>
>
> >From: Nadeem Khawaja <nkhawaja@wgate.com>
> >Reply-To: Nadeem Khawaja <nkhawaja@wgate.com>
> >To: "'cisco@groupstudy.com'" <cisco@groupstudy.com>,
> >"'ccielab@groupstudy.com'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.
> >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:30:49 -0400
> >
> >Hi Gurus!
> >
> >I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on
>both
> >the mailling lists at groupstudy.com but have not received any proper
> >response regarding it.
> >Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it,
>what
> >ever you can provide.
> >e.g what exactly to study.
> >from where to study
> >what sort of questions comes
> >how usefull is subscription to ccpre.com
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >



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