From: Timur.Mirza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue Aug 22 2000 - 15:00:58 GMT-3
cfg atm or ospf is not an issue, but some of the things that are asked these
days are outright ridiculous & the proctor (in my experience & others) has not
been of any assistance...there will be a point where cisco is going to have to
either break up the r&s lab or just plainly indicate that certain fringe
technologies will not be tested...its that simple, otherwise the human mind wil
l
not be able to encompass EVERYTHING on the cisco cd...isdn backup is a great
example - in the real world, we do use floating statics or the backup interface
command...timur
Padhu@steinroe.com on 08/22/2000 10:53:55 AM
To: Timur Mirza/Corporate/AirTouch@AirTouch, ccielab@groupstudy.com
cc:
Subject: RE: Lab Q ?
I agree to a reasonable level on ur observation. When i passed my CCIE
written in 97 for the first time, the labs definetly wouldn't have been this
difficult...but at the same time with technology changing so fast,it is
imperative that we are CCIEs that can serve the industry better today rather
than just hold the certification...The only thing is ,its gonna only get
worse over time ..the passing rate may drop to single digits..so for all of
us out there aspiring to get this magic number,ITS NOW OR NEVER !!!!. Cisco
isn't gonna make this easier and actually that makes it better for the CCIEs
bcos you would have much more respect for the CCIEs passing out this and
coming years...
we should be proud that we can configure ATM in 15 mins...complex OSPF
network in 20 mins...There is a lot of good things we can look at to inspire
ourselves and keep this tug of war going.Go for it !!!!
Cheers,Padhu
-----Original Message-----
From: Timur.Mirza@Notes.airtouch.com
[mailto:Timur.Mirza@Notes.airtouch.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 11:50 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Lab Q ?
to a certain extent, the ccie exam is unfair...they tout consistency (in not
doling out partial points) yet they are not consistent when it comes to the
degree of difficulty (a ccie two years ago is not the same as a ccie
today)...you cannot know about every way to do everything...the way i
perceive
it, i consider myself fairly competent & i'm just going to keep taking the
exam
'til pass - my path is bound to intersect w/ an exam that is somewhat
viable...i'm 100% certain that if i took the exam two short years ago, i
would
have passed it on the first attempt...timur (10/14-15 @ rtp)
---------------------- Forwarded by Timur Mirza/Corporate/AirTouch on
08/22/2000
09:45 AM ---------------------------
"Brian S turner" <brian@theatlasgroup.net> on 08/19/2000 08:16:05 AM
Please respond to "Brian S turner" <brian@theatlasgroup.net>
To: "'David H. Brown'" <DHBrown@Pipeline.com>, "'damien'"
<damien@clara.co.uk>
cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com (bcc: Timur Mirza/Corporate/AirTouch)
Subject: RE: Lab Q ?
Well In my lab a month ago I accomplished all the goals of the question, but
the proctor was looking for a specific way for it to be done and he marked
it wrong, apparently I was the first person he had ever seen try to do it
that way. Granted the question was in a round about way pointing me toward
the other solution now that I think about it, but My solution didn't break
any of the rules of the task. I argued about it, and he said he would check
into and email me. He never emailed me... It wouldn't have helped me
pass, but its the principle of the matter...
Well without breaking disclosure I can't really explain more of it. But
trust me on this one Try to understand the intent of the questions, and
understand that there may be a slight error in the wording on a few
questions. The real problem is, what is a wording error and what is a
hidden issue???
In my case it was a wording error, but apparently they don't care to fix it
or they are to Simple minded to realize that they are producing a flawed
lab. I had a friend who recently took it and ran into the same confusing
wording error on the same problem, he was able to deduce around the issue.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
David H. Brown
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 9:12 AM
To: 'damien'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Lab Q ?
Damien,
Any configuration that meets the requirements stated (and that means ALL
of the requirements) is allowed. We all know there are multiple ways of
achieving the same result within IOS, but sometimes you will be restricted
in which commands you can use. So my rule of thumb is to know every
different way to achieve any required result in every technology within IOS.
If you can do that, you are an expert.
David
(RTP lab 9/18)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
damien
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 5:15 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Lab Q ?
Just regarding configuration solutions in the Lab. Is any configuration
acceptable in the Lab as long as it works. What I am getting at is
configurtions in the Lab as we all know are unreal for the most part,
but there is also configurations which are only for a Lab environment.
As an example. If you are configuring a Typical Frame relay set up where
you are required only on certain interfaces to use the physical others
to use subs, others where you are not allowed to use inverse-arp and
limited to one frame map statement etc etc.....
Is it okay to use things like policy route-maps to set next hops...ip
local policys for traffic originated by the Router etc. etc..........
This is a hard Q to put in writing...........
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