From: Mike Bernico (mbernico@xxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Jul 26 2000 - 10:24:15 GMT-3
I agree that there is nothing for traning in the WAN arena. I'm working on
CCDP WAN right now, almost there. That wasn't too bad. I used the WAN
quickstart, BSSC manual, the MACC manual, the intruction guides for SV+, and
just alot of guessing and documentation CD with the IGX as well as some
information supplied by a co-worker. We use the BPX, MGX, and the 8850, but
I've never even seen an IGX. Maybe the list serv should write some training
books for cisco press. As far as attempting CCIE WAN, I doubt I ever will.
I know ppl that I respect for their networking knowledge with the WAN gear
that have failed over and over. This, coupled with Cisco's new pyramid
design don't strongly compell me to go on. If you aren't familiar with the
pyramids look on cisco's wan certification page. you'll see that Cisco now
had two pyramids, a Implementation pyramid and a Design Pyramid. CCIE WAN
is on the top of implementaion and CCDP SW is on the top of design. I know
and you know that the CCIE is way harder, but cisco seems to place equal
value on each. I also believe that implentation is fun, but design is what
makes you rich. So all I'm saying is I'm not sure that the investment you'd
have to make into CCIE WAN would pay off in $$$.
Mike Bernico
CCNP WAN Switching
LincOn Network Operations Center
Illinois State Board of Education
(217) 782-4313
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris@mentortech.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 4:37 PM
To: Dana_L_Steffey@seagate.com; 'Jeff Sapiro'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE WAN
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No, AT&T has a good-sized StrataCom network, hence the large outage in their
frame network last year. :) Badly implemented software update (someone
didn't read the manual).
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Dana_L_Steffey@seagate.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 1:46 PM
To: Jeff Sapiro
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE WAN
Everything on the WAN track is awful - Their are no books, and the
documentation sucks after you get past IGX/BPX 101. I have been waiting
for a higher level troubleshooting class for years. The last one they had
was in the IPX days.
>From what I hear you have to not only know how to configure all of the
StrataCom stuff, but multi-vendor PBX's as well. They tell me you have to
also setup Cisco WAN Manager on a Solaris Platform (what they used to call
SV+ - there are some tricks to this one from personal experience, you need
to be somewhat UNIX savvy)
>From the last stats that I saw dated 4/30/00 their were only 59 in the
world with a 5:1 ratio on passing the lab - the R/S is about 3:1
I had also planned on getting the WAN CCIE after my R/S, due to the fact I
support a pretty good size StrataCom network.
That is if I ever pass the R/S lab.
Dana
P.S. I was under the impression that AT&T only had Ascend? not StrataCom.
Jeff Sapiro <jsapiro@wnmail.wndev.att.com>@groupstudy.com on 07/25/2000
12:02:41 PM
Please respond to Jeff Sapiro <jsapiro@wnmail.wndev.att.com>
Sent by: nobody@groupstudy.com
To: GroupStudy CCIE <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
cc:
Subject: CCIE WAN
Anybody out there know what to do to prepare for this? 2 MGX8850's have
recently become available to me - the docs are awful though.
-Jeff
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