From: Andrew (arousch@xxxxxxxx)
Date: Sun Jul 23 2000 - 14:09:32 GMT-3
I hope it's 60F there because i sweat like a PIG when im doing hardcore
troubleshooting
At 12:25 PM 7/23/00 -0400, Brian Hescock wrote:
>Considering Cisco engineers regularly wear shorts and flip-flops to work
>at RTP, and you're not at the CCIE lab for an interview, wear whatever
>you want. Someone mentioned it was 60 degrees at the RTP lab and to
>bring a sweatshirt, there must have been problems with the temp control
>that one day because it was fine when I was there.
>
>B.
>
>On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Earl Aboytes wrote:
>
> > I agree with Ron. It does matter what you wear. It matters what you wear
> > wherever you go. There is always going to be scenarios where you will want
> > to be given the benefit of the doubt. If the proctor never speaks to you
> > and doesn't know you, guess what he'll be judging you on? Absolutely the
> > last thing you want on the proctor's mind is the tacky clothes you wore to
> > take the test. The CCIE community is a small one. If you are already a
> > member you are going to only want certain "types" in the club. A poorly
> > dressed candidate is someone that doesn't have a lot of respect for the
> > proctor or the test.
> >
> > Remember, if there is a judgment call to be made by the proctor, you surely
> > want it to go your way. Don't wear a tie and coat just wear business
> > casual. No jeans or cutoffs or anything like that. I don't care what the
> > proctor is wearing. He already has his CCIE.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Earl Aboytes
> > Senior Technical Conultant
> > GTE Managed Solutions
> > 805-381-8817
> > earl.aboytes@telops.gte.com
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > Andrew
> > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 4:19 PM
> > To: Ron Hix; Scott Benton; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Lab Dress
> >
> > Wear what every you wish (i.e. jeans and a tshirt.) I don't know what Ron
> > was smoking during his reply. The proctors know why you are there, what
> > you are going to experience and are just their to put your skills to the
> > test. They could care less what you are wearing...
> >
> > At 04:12 PM 7/22/00 -0500, Ron Hix wrote:
> > >First of all, you have to be a CCIE before you walk into the lab...in the
> > >lab you will just get a chance to prove to Cisco that you already are a
> > CCIE
> > >and then maybe...just maybe...they will give you that coveted number.
> > >Clothes aside, you have to know your stuff COLD.
> > >
> > >By all means you should be comfortable, of course you don't wear a tie and
> > >coat. Who needs the extra pressure of just trying to breathe with a tie
> > on?
> > >But, I WOULD suggest you dress like a CCIE...or at least put forth an
> > effort
> > >to present yourself to the proctor like what you think Cisco would
> expect a
> > >CCIE to be in appearance.
> > >
> > >The reality is that the proctors are just people too. If you come
> into the
> > >lab looking like a slouch, then the first impression you give the proctor
> > is
> > >that you are a slouch. If you are lucky you will get to spend two
> glorious
> > >days with this person, why run the risk of starting off on the wrong foot?
> > >You don't know this person that is the proctor and you don't know what
> > >preconceptions he / she brings to the table. I would rather err on the
> > side
> > >of caution.
> > >
> > >Bottom line: Business Casual. I would suggest a pair of comfortable
> khaki
> > >pants and pullover short sleeve shirt with a collar (preferably a Cisco
> > >shirt if you have one...that way you can look like one of the Cisco team).
> > >
> > >Just my opinion,
> > >Ron Hix
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Scott Benton <spyral_architect@yahoo.com>
> > >To: ccielab@groupstudy.com <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > >Date: Saturday, July 22, 2000 3:42 PM
> > >Subject: Lab Dress
> > >
> > >
> > > >I have what sounds to me to be a stupid question (I
> > > >know, I know...no such thing as a stupid question)
> > > >that I haven't seen addressed before. Does it matter
> > > >what you wear into the lab? I want to be comfortable,
> > > >which to me is jeans, t-shirt, and ballcap. I guess
> > > >what I'm getting at is, since the proctor has some
> > > >discretion, will you start out on the wrong foot if
> > > >you're not dressed in at least business casual? I know
> > > >the lab is supposed to be based on pure ability, and I
> > > >hope something as silly as how you're dressed would
> > > >not affect the outcome or the helpfullness of the
> > > >proctor. But then again, I've run across many people
> > > >who seem to judge your level of seriousness about
> > > >things based on how you're dressed. Any insight?
> > > >Scott
> > > >
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