From: Brian Edwards (bedwards@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Jul 10 2000 - 18:39:48 GMT-3
What do you think a certification should be? Obviously MS certs are becoming
a joke (no offense), the CCIE seems to be based on a curve where they only
allow so many to pass every quarter. If you were developing a new
certification program, what would be the most important aspects? How would
you keep the cert credible, yet fair.
Obviously the #1 purpose of these certs is to raise money for the company
through (1) growing the knowledge base of your product, so customers will
buy your product b/c it is easy to find employees to support it, and (2) by
selling books, courses and lab fees.
I know the CCIE process is frustrating (I took a step back and failed to
reach day two on my second attempt), but I think it is a great model for
other certifications. Your input would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian
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Brian Edwards
Juniper Networks, Inc.
JTAC / Technical Support Engineer
Ph: 408-745-2152
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Conzone [mailto:jkconzone@home.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:14 PM
> To: Jeff Sapiro; Earl Aboytes
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Passing the test
>
>
> You're lucky Joe Pesci isn't one of us!
> Rent "Goodfella's" and see how he like "amusing" and
> "entertaining"
> people!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Sapiro" <jsapiro@wnmail.wndev.att.com>
> To: "Earl Aboytes" <earl@linkline.com>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 12:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Passing the test
>
>
> > I agree, there are many excellent network people here
> failing the test;
> but this
> > test is more about being an expert in taking the test - it keeps me
> > entertained...
> > -Jeff
> >
> > Earl Aboytes wrote:
> >
> > > Is no one passing this exam? I have seen only one post
> from our group
> by
> > > Erik CCIE #5983 in the last few months. I also heard that only 14
> people
> > > have passed a particular test in San Jose and the test
> has been out
> since
> > > April. The lead-time to schedule this test is up to 3 and a half
> months.
> > >
> > > There are a lot of bright, knowledgeable people on this
> list that are
> > > failing this test. This is really starting to p!$$ me
> off. Is anyone
> else
> > > as frustrated as I am?
> > >
> > > I consider myself a solid candidate. The last time I
> took the exam I
> didn't
> > > even make it to day two. What is going on here?
> Somebody clue me in,
> > > please! I am starting to NOT see the point of this certification
> anymore.
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Earl Aboytes
> > > Senior Technical Conultant
> > > GTE Managed Solutions
> > > 805-381-8817
> > > earl.aboytes@telops.gte.com
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >
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