From: Earl Aboytes (earl@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Sat Jul 08 2000 - 19:34:18 GMT-3
I appreciate your comments Scott. Just so you know, this was not my first
attempt. It was my sixth. My first attempt was over a year ago. I have
been to ECP1. I have been on this list since January of this year. I stay
up until 2:00 am every morning studying this stuff in my lab. My wife and
kids wonder where Daddy is sometimes.
I am NOT a moron. Ask Bruce about Saint Earl. He'll know what I am talking
about. I have a Bachelors degree in Economics and I used to be a teacher.
I can honestly say that I have reasonable intelligence.
You bring up a very good point. " Take a look
at the previous time you took the exam. WHY did you fail? take a long,
hard look at it, and figure it out."
On my last attempt I mismanaged my time. The clock on my PC was off by an
hour and I never noticed it. I don't wear a watch and I was sitting in rack
1. From rack 1 you cannot see the clock on the wall. You can bet that I
have purchased several watches since then and I will be wearing every one of
them on my next attempt. Even without the last hour I made a good attempt
but no day two.
I'll get this certification. Maybe only to show Cisco that they can't beat
me!
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Earl Aboytes
Senior Technical Conultant
GTE Managed Solutions
805-381-8817
earl.aboytes@telops.gte.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris@mentortech.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 9:16 AM
To: 'Earl Aboytes'
Subject: RE: Passing the test
Don't get burnt out already, Earl!!! There's plenty more projects to get
burnt out on and frustrated with after you get your CCIE! Remember, this is
just the beginning!!! :)
More people failing means that things on the lab are not what people are
studying for... Keep in mind the pure psychology of the exam. Take a look
at the previous time you took the exam. WHY did you fail? take a long,
hard look at it, and figure it out.
When I went in the first time, I was SURE I was going to pass. i studied
lots, I knew (I thought) everything that was going to be on the exam. There
wasn't going to be a problem. Well.. There was. Not the end of the world,
I worked on stuff, and beat problems to death until I solved them, but in
the end, I ran out of time doing that.
So looking back on the first time, the entire problem was MY approach. Me,
and nothing but me. The CCIE exam is not just a test of what you know.
Sure, if you dive into it, and work until you're burnt out, you may know
everything but what good does it do you? Part of the CCIE exam (and being
one) is not what you know, but the ability to grasp and answer what you
don't know.
The increase in people failing simply tells me that everyone is concentating
on what they know, and forgetting about what they don't know. All of the
answers are within the Doc CD that you have access to in the lab. The
answers arent' always clear, and you gotta know what you're reading and
apply the information, but the info IS there.
When you get over the mindset of being a CCIE, thinking like a CCIE (as
Bruce Caslow would say, "Spot the issues" (and then deal with them)), then
you're going to do fine regardless of the specifics of the lab.
There are some really bright people on this list. Some of whom haven't made
it to passing status yet. There are some on the list who ask most questions
then they answer. That doesn't make them any less prepared, just less sure
of themselves. The exam is technically tough, but not impossible, so don't
give it up!
Realize the psychology of it, adapt and overcome, you'll be fine! By
adjusting my approach to the exam, and only studying the doc CD layout
between the two lab exams I took, I had so much time left over when I
completed the second try Day 1 stuff, it scared the hell out of me! But it
was still a good feeling! You can do it!
Scott Morris, MCSE, CNE(3.x), CCDP (R&S), CCIE (R&S) #4713, Security
Specialization, CCNA - WAN Switching
CCSI #21903
smorris@ccci.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Earl Aboytes
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 4:17 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Passing the test
Is no one passing this exam? I have seen only one post from our group by
Erik CCIE #5983 in the last few months. I also heard that only 14 people
have passed a particular test in San Jose and the test has been out since
April. The lead-time to schedule this test is up to 3 and a half months.
There are a lot of bright, knowledgeable people on this list that are
failing this test. This is really starting to p!$$ me off. Is anyone else
as frustrated as I am?
I consider myself a solid candidate. The last time I took the exam I didn't
even make it to day two. What is going on here? Somebody clue me in,
please! I am starting to NOT see the point of this certification anymore.
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Earl Aboytes
Senior Technical Conultant
GTE Managed Solutions
805-381-8817
earl.aboytes@telops.gte.com
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