RE: DDR config with EIGRP and OSPF

From: Scott Morris (smorris@xxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Jun 07 2000 - 11:35:02 GMT-3


   
Okee doke. I think you guys are all over-thinking this problem!!! A couple
options you have....

1. Don't include EIGRP updates as "interesting" traffic.

2. Give up on EIGRP over the BRI link and do snapshot routing.

Sometimes things don't always work in nice, little, compact packages! :)

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Brian Hescock
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 8:45 AM
To: pkm@calweb.com
Cc: Kruepke; abdul_rahim@ccsi.canon.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: DDR config with EIGRP and OSPF

Sure you can configure the hello and hold timers but all you're changing
is the amount of time the neighbors will stay up. What if the link doesn't
come up for several hours during the middle of the night and the
hello/hold interval is just under that, the neighbors are down and the
routes are flushed. Let's say the central site has a packet destined for
the remote network, will he have a route for it, no. You also couldn't
rely on using a default route because you don't point default routes to
remote networks (in real life). Of course, you could use floating statics
but then aren't we defeating the purpose of the exercise? EIGRP isn't
designed for DDR, otherwise they would have the equivalent of ip ospf
demand-circuit. I haven't looked into ipx eigrp extensively yet but I
would bet it has the same basic behavior as ip eigrp and DDR isn't
specifically supported.

Someone else had mentioned that yes, you can change the interval, but
doing so isn't a good solution. But you're correct, technically you can
probably make it work but I would never use it in the real world.

Brian

On Wed, 7 Jun 2000 pkm@calweb.com wrote:

> EIGRP and DDR
> ===========
>
> IPX EIGRP can do DDR defintely. Use ipx hello-interval eigrp and ipx
hold-time eigrp to prevent the EIGRP packets from keeping the ISDN line
constantly active. Also, use the command ipx-sap-incremental eigrp to
control the SAP updates. AppleTalk EIGRP can also be used on DDR link. And I
will not be surprised that IP EIGRP works also on DDR too. Actually, I just
checked on th CCO: for IP, you have ip
> hello-interval eigrp and ip hold-time eigrp. It is exactly like IPX.
> Configuring Cisco Routers for Bridging, DLSW+ & Desktop Protocols cover
EIGRP for IPX and AT by Tan Nam-Kee.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Phillip Moulay
> CCDP/CCNP-Security Specialization
>
> Kruepke wrote:
>
> > Abdul,
> >
> > EIGRP cannot do DDR. The necessity of the Hellos prevents it.
> >
> > OSPF uses a feature called Demand Circuit to do DDR. I don't have any
configs handy, but all you need to do is enter the 'ip ospf demand-circuit'
in interface configuration mode. It only needs to be done to one side of
the link. With this, your LSAs from across the link should be marked DNA
(do not age) in the link state database, and your demand circuit neighbor
should not have a hold timer.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Keith
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <abdul_rahim@ccsi.canon.com>
> > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 3:52 PM
> > Subject: DDR config with EIGRP and OSPF
> >
> > Hi Can any body forward me some DDR configs with EIGRP
> > Thanks
> > Abdul
> >



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