Re: GROUPSTUDY - ETHICS

From: David Goldsmith (dgoldsmi@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Fri May 26 2000 - 14:54:10 GMT-3


   
Aaron,

Don't be so sure....

Dave Goldsmith

Aaron DuShey wrote:

> Relax guys. Don't think Cisco isn't watching this list. All stuff that is
> posted is watched closely. Nobody is or ever will pass the lab exam based on
> the stuff only in this list. Correct me if i'm wrong, but this list is just
> to help get through some of the quirks or misunderstandings in the
> technologies etc... and to brainshare. Anyone who earns the CCIE cert will
> have done a lot of study and work. Cisco will make sure of that. They are
> updating the exams as we speak. Sometimes you get tired of reading the doc
> cd and would like a human explaination. If you don't like seeing the
> questions, I suggest you leave the group, or if I'm off mark, then whoever
> runs this list should list the rules again, so all are clear. I agree that
> some questions may not be the hardest to answer, but nobody is forcing you
> to answer or be on this list. I think the last thing we should do is stifle
> communication here-
> my 2 cents
>
> Aaron DuShey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Horton, Jeff
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:49 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: GROUPSTUDY - ETHICS
>
> If we don't ask and answer questions related to the CCIE lab then what is
> the purpose of this forum-ccielab@groupstudy.com?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hedlund, Brad [mailto:BHedlund@realapps.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 10:16 AM
> To: 'carl commander'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: GROUPSTUDY - ETHICS
>
> Absolutely on the mark Carl!
>
> Let me also say that people recently have been asking .... how shall I say
> this ... LAZY questions.
> "How do I configure this" "How do I configure that" kind of questions.
>
> LOOK IT UP YOURSELF! The answer is right on the Doc CD!
>
> Becoming a CCIE isnt only about passing a 2-day Lab exam. Its the struggle
> of getting there that makes you a CCIE!
>
> SUCCESS IS A JOURNEY, NOT A DESTINATION
>
> Brad Hedlund
> CCIE #5530
> REAL Solutions (CENTRON)
> Elcamino Resources Ltd.
> Eden Prairie, MN.
> (952) 829-2877
>
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I dont want this to come out the wrong way but I would like
> > to make a point
> > about this forum without upsetting anyone or causing bad feeling.
> > I have been reading this forum for a number of months and I
> > am seeing more
> > and more questions being asked which to my knowledge have been lifted
> > directly from the the lab. I have taken the lab 3 times, each
> > time reaching
> > troubleshooting but narrowly failing. From this I have seen a
> > wide range of
> > questions for different scenario's and as I I have had all my
> > attempts this
> > year all the questions are very relevant as these labs will
> > still be active
> > in the test cirriculum.
> > As I was saying there seems to be people posting questions at
> > least 5-6 a
> > week either the same or different questions that appear in
> > labs. This is not
> > a coincidence.
> > I beleive by doing this the CCIE will be de-valued as people
> > are taking
> > shortcuts and not going out and reading the cisco literature
> > and learning
> > themselves the answers and idosynacries of certain protocols.
> > Like I say I am not attempting to annoy people I would just
> > like to say that
> > when I earn my CCIE I will have earned it fairly.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Carl.



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