RE: IRB

From: Ronald Johnson (ronbob@xxxxxxx)
Date: Fri Mar 17 2000 - 23:18:38 GMT-3


   
Leaving the BVI interface on Router A and simply turning off bridging (not
routing) for IP
gets rid of the problem. A few solutions to the problem are to either:

a) turn off bridging for IP on the interface, this restores the serial
interface to its
   normal operation

b) creating a BV1 on each end of the connection and placing them on a common
subnet.
   * can't forget to put in the command "frame-relay map bridge DLCI#" or it
won't work

Once the BVI interfaces are setup on opposite ends, bridging provides the
actual conduit for the two BVI interfaces to communicate. Even if you leave
the IP addresses on the serial interface, you cannot ping the IP address of
the opposing serial interface. You will get a "encap failed" message as Jeff
mentioned below. You certainly can't turn IRB on arbitrarily without really
understanding how much it's going to screw things up. Mixing frame relay,
irb, redistribution, access lists, and a pretty crappy routing protocol
(IGRP) seems to be enough of a recipe to make things interesting.

I guess spending this amount of time on each topic would make you a Cisco
expert.. but it's a bit daunting for those of us only a few short days away
from the actual lab to think what kind of time investment is necessary to
become a real pro with all of this stuff.

Time to review the next topic.. DSLW+..

Thx.

-Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
jbazar
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 4:25 PM
To: 'Ronald Johnson'; 'jbazar'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: IRB

Ronald

        Do a debug ip packet. You will notice that your encapsulation will fai
l
for updates being sent out s0. That is because bridging is being done on
this interface for IP, and packets are going to your BVI to route packets.
When you use standard bridging without IRB, bridging is only done on
non-routable protocols. IRB will bridge all protocols as soon as you turn
it on (including IP).

        If you want to continue to use the BVI, you must use that one address f
or
the whole bridge group. In your case, you have 3 IP addresses on the same
LAN. If you would rather use the IP addresses on the physical interfaces,
type "no bridge 1 bridge IP". This will disable the bridging of IP in
bridge group 1. You will not need the BVI in this case.

try it out

jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Ronald Johnson
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 1:47 PM
To: 'jbazar'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: IRB

Thanks for your responses guys but I'm not sure we have this one nailed yet.
I have heard a couple of different suggestions. One was to enable a BVI
interface (this was already in the config), the second suggestion was to
turn off bridging for IP (if only bridging is enabled, things work fine.. I
only run into problems when I create the BVI interface. Bridging works fine
by itself, so turning off bridging for IP does not make a difference).
Another suggestion was to create the BVI and add a network statement under
the IGRP routing process that included the ip address of the BVI. If you
reference the config you will see that this was already done as well...

So guys.. the jury is still out on this one. What I am not sure about is how
the IGRP updates are sourced once the BVI is created. If I debug the IGRP
updates it shows that updates are sourced not only by the BVI, but the
Serial 0 interface as well. As I mentioned in my previous e-mail.. I am
still receiving updates just fine on Router A. According to router A, I am
still sending them.. However, there is something weird about the creation of
the BVI on Router A that is keeping router B from receiving IGRP updates as
usual.

Router A: IGRP Debug Output

IGRP: received update from 192.168.3.65 on Serial0
      subnet 192.168.3.104, metric 1002255 (neighbor 1000255)
      subnet 192.168.3.64, metric 1002255 (neighbor 1000255)
      subnet 192.168.3.0, metric 8506 (neighbor 6506)
      network 1.0.0.0, metric 8506 (neighbor 6506)
      network 33.0.0.0, metric 8506 (neighbor 6506)
      network 172.16.0.0, metric 8506 (neighbor 6506)
      network 22.0.0.0, metric 8506 (neighbor 6506)
      network 192.168.5.0, metric 1002255 (neighbor 1000255)
      *snip*

IGRP: sending update to 255.255.255.255 via BVI1 (99.99.99.99)
      network 5.0.0.0, metric=1100
      network 7.0.0.0, metric=6486
      network 8.0.0.0, metric=6486
      network 9.0.0.0, metric=6486
      network 10.0.0.0, metric=2750
      network 208.158.193.0, metric=8476
IGRP: Update contains 0 interior, 6 system, and 0 exterior routes.
IGRP: Total routes in update: 6
IGRP: sending update to 255.255.255.255 via Serial0 (192.168.3.66)
      subnet 192.168.3.64, metric=8476
      network 5.0.0.0, metric=1100
      network 7.0.0.0, metric=6486
      network 8.0.0.0, metric=6486
      network 9.0.0.0, metric=6486
      network 10.0.0.0, metric=2750
      network 99.0.0.0, metric=1500
      network 208.158.193.0, metric=8476
IGRP: Update contains 1 interior, 7 system, and 0 exterior routes.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
jbazar
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 9:52 AM
To: 'Ronald Johnson'; cisco@groupstudy.com
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: IRB

Ronald

If you want these interfaces to participate in bridging but still allow
routing of IP without a BVI, type this command in global configuration on
both routers.

no bridge 1 bridge ip

You will start seeing routing updates again.

By default, IRB will bridge all protocols. The only way you can bridge and
route a certain protocol is by using a BVI.

Hope this helps

jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Ronald Johnson
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 10:37 PM
To: cisco@groupstudy.com
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: IRB

Question.. I have two routers running IGRP over a frame link. When I turn on
IRB on router A (Bridging and Routing IPX, Decnet, Appletalk, IP), router B
stops receiving IGRP updates from router A. When I do a "debug ip igrp
events" on Router A it shows I am still receiving updates from router B and
sending updates out Serial 0. However, issuing the debug igrp command on
router B shows router B is sending updates, but is not receiving IGRP
updates from anyone. Even more strange is the fact that I cannot ping either
serial interface from either side when IRB is turned on!

RouterA-S0: <----IGRP----> :S0.1-RouterB

Seems like a simple scenario. However, as soon as I type "bridge irb" on
router A, router B no longer receives IGRP updates from
router A... Am I missing something obvious here? I am hoping for one of
those obvious gotcha answers since I am too tired to figure this out
tonight.. :D (config below)

Thanks.

-Ron

Router A:
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 5.5.5.5 255.255.255.0
 no keepalive
 ipx network 4A
 bridge-group 1
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 192.168.3.66 255.255.255.248
 encapsulation frame-relay
 decnet cost 1
 ipx network 40
 cdp enable
 frame-relay map ip 192.168.3.65 401 broadcast
 no frame-relay inverse-arp
 bridge-group 1
!
interface Serial1
 ip address 208.158.193.129 255.255.255.248
 clockrate 2000000
 bridge-group 1
!
interface TokenRing0
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 decnet cost 5
 ipx network 4B
 ring-speed 4
!
interface BVI1
 ip address 99.99.99.99 255.255.255.248
 ipx network C30
!
router igrp 50
 redistribute bgp 200 metric 1544 10 255 100 1400
 passive-interface Ethernet0
 passive-interface TokenRing0
 network 10.0.0.0
 network 192.168.3.0
 network 5.0.0.0
 network 208.158.193.0
 network 99.0.0.0
 distribute-list 1 out
!
router bgp 200
 no synchronization
 redistribute connected
 neighbor 192.168.3.106 remote-as 200
 neighbor 192.168.3.106 next-hop-self
 neighbor 208.158.193.130 remote-as 100
!
ip classless
ip as-path access-list 10 deny _300
ip as-path access-list 10 permit .*
logging buffered 8000 debugging
access-list 1 permit 5.0.0.0
access-list 1 permit 7.0.0.0
access-list 1 permit 8.0.0.0
access-list 1 permit 9.0.0.0
access-list 1 permit 10.0.0.0
access-list 1 permit 192.168.3.20 0.0.0.3
access-list 1 permit 192.168.3.64 0.0.0.7
access-list 1 permit 192.1.24.0 0.0.0.7
access-list 1 permit 208.158.193.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 1 permit 99.0.0.0 0.255.255.255
access-list 2 deny 192.168.3.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 2 permit any
!
!
bridge irb
bridge 1 protocol ieee
 bridge 1 route decnet
 bridge 1 route ip
 bridge 1 route ipx

=============================================

Router B:
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 192.168.5.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip ospf message-digest-key 1 md5 cisco
 ip ospf interface-retry 0
 ipx network 5
!
interface Serial0.1 point-to-point << to router A
 ip address 192.168.3.65 255.255.255.248
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip split-horizon
 ip ospf network point-to-multipoint
 ip ospf interface-retry 0
 ip ospf priority 100
 decnet cost 1
 ipx network 40
 no arp frame-relay
 frame-relay interface-dlci 104
 bridge-group 1
!
interface Serial0.2 multipoint
 ip address 192.168.3.105 255.255.255.248
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip split-horizon
 ip ospf message-digest-key 1 md5 cisco
 ip ospf network point-to-multipoint
 ip ospf interface-retry 0
 ip ospf priority 100
 appletalk cable-range 500-500 500.1
 appletalk zone WAN2
 decnet cost 4
 ipx network 20
 frame-relay map bridge 102 broadcast
 frame-relay map ipx 20.0000.0c47.5eb7 103 broadcast
 frame-relay map decnet 2.3 102 broadcast
 frame-relay map ip 192.168.3.106 102 broadcast
 frame-relay map ip 192.168.3.107 103 broadcast
 frame-relay map ipx 20.0000.0c47.b92b 102 broadcast
 frame-relay map appletalk 500.2 102 broadcast
 frame-relay map appletalk 500.3 103 broadcast
 frame-relay interface-dlci 102
 frame-relay interface-dlci 103
 no frame-relay inverse-arp
 bridge-group 1

router ospf 200
 area 0 authentication message-digest
 redistribute igrp 50 subnets
 network 192.168.3.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 network 192.168.5.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
!
router igrp 50
 redistribute connected metric 10 255 255 120 1400
 redistribute ospf 200 metric 1544 30 255 20 1400
 network 192.168.3.0
 network 192.168.5.0
!
bridge 1 protocol ieee



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