Re: CCIE Lab tips: Longish :)

From: Peter Van Oene (vantech@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Oct 05 1999 - 12:41:22 GMT-3


   
To be honest, I really only got into it in January of this year. I had a
previous background in 3com and Ascend and Bay etc. I would say I have a
year of hard core hands on Cisco work. However, I've put in avoer 10 half
million plus dollar networks in that time being an integrator so I've
certianly done a fair amount in that year.

Peter Van Oene
Senior Systems Engineer
UNIS LUMIN Inc.
www.unislumin.com

----- Original Message -----
From: andy nwebube <nwebube@hotmail.com>
To: <rmoffett@columbus.rr.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>;
<cisco@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE Lab tips: Longish :)

> Peter,
>
> how lonv have you actually been in the Cisco world ?
>
> Andy Nwebube
>
>
> >From: "Ryan Moffett" <rmoffett@columbus.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: "Ryan Moffett" <rmoffett@columbus.rr.com>
> >To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>, <cisco@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: Re: CCIE Lab tips: Longish :)
> >Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:15:03 -0400
> >
> >Bravo, Peter! Excellent post to the group. It really helps those of us
> >who are mentally preparing to take the lab in the next couple of months.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Peter Van Oene <vantech@sympatico.ca>
> >To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; <cisco@groupstudy.com>
> >Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 10:58 PM
> >Subject: CCIE Lab tips: Longish :)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > As many have asked for my thoughts on CCIE Lab preparation, I figured
a
> > > single message would suit nicely.
> > >
> > > First off, thanks all for the congrats, its feels good to know we're
all
> > > pulling
> > > for each other.
> > >
> > > On to tips.
> > >
> > > My preparation included the following:
> > >
> > > Course: ACRC, CLSC, CIT, SNAM in that order.
> > >
> > > Books read specifically for the lab: Cisco Certification from Bruce
> >Caslow
> > > for lab exam strategy. Routing TCP/IP from Jeff Doyle for IGP theory.
> > > Internet Routing Architectures from Bassam Halabi for BGP4.
> > >
> > > Outside of the above, I often consult many of the books in the CCIE
> >reading
> > > list and own most of them.
> > >
> > > I also read just about all of the 11.3 and 12.0 Guides on CCO. These
> >are
> > > CRITICAL. Not only do you need to possess a good understanding of the
> >core
> > > topics, insight into the structure and location of key items within
the
> >CCO
> > > CD is essential for Lab success.
> > >
> > > I also read a fair number of RFC's casually.
> > >
> > > From April until about August I read most nights and did general lab
> >work
> >on
> > > the weekends. During august to lab date (sept 30th), I spent as many
> >hours
> > > on a stack of 2500's as I could working through various configs. I
> >created
> > > my own labs for myself with the help of some other CCIE's, but
resources
> > > like www.cciebootcamp.com should not be overlooked here. Config
> >confidence
> > > and quickness are essential skills when your in the lab.
> > >
> > > Thats pretty much my prep work overall.
> > >
> > > As far as tips go, I'll list a few key items. However, I very highly
> > > reccommend Bruce Caslow's book for lab strategy. I scored just below
90
> >and
> > > was in a confortable position throughout the lab because of the the
> > > strategies learned through this text.
> > >
> > > Here are my tips.
> > >
> > > Methodology: As many have said before, read the questions and diagram
> >your
> > > network thoughtfully before you jump into the config. I spent extra
> >time
> > > working on addressing matrices as well. Speed is of the essense in
the
> >lab.
> > > As you practise, develop this routine of diagraming, documenting and
> > > performing. From there, implement layer by layer. Personally, I
> >address
> > > all my layer three very quickly, save and move onto the next router.
On
> >my
> > > second pass, I verify my ip addressing and add my IGP configs.
> >Regardless
> > > of what works for you, you should have a process down cold. The time
> >you
> > > save in nailing this aspect will allow you to verify and research
later
> >in
> > > the day.
> > >
> > > Technology: Remember that the lab is 100 points. With research, you
> >will
> > > quickly realize what the core topics are. You simply must own these
> >core
> > > topics. For example you should be able to configure a term server,
5-7
> > > routers with traditional IGP's fully addressed and functional in well
> >under
> > > an
> > > hour with all layer 2 technologies. You should be dreaming these
> >configs
> > > and telling your significant other about them in your sleep because
they
> >are
> > > so much top of mind. Much of the 100 points will be attained through
> >these
> > > configs. Count on the rest of those points coming from very odd
topics.
> >I
> > > could configure a large amount of wierd and useless stuff, but the lab
> >was
> > > 100% in stumping me with stuff I'd never seen. However, given the
time
> >I'd
> > > bought myself by knowing the previous, I was able to research and
> >implement
> > > each of the items. Given you can't know everything, its my
> >recommendation
> > > to have an idea where everything sits on the CD. The search engine is
> >crap
> > > and it won't bail you out. What will is having a recollection of
where
> >the
> > > various
> > > topics exist on the CD and being able to get there quickly. Although
I
> > > don't advocate learning a lot of arcane stuff, I do advise trying to
set
> > > things up that you've never seen before using only the CD as a
resource.
> >If
> > > your confident you can handle wierd stuff, your much less likely to
> >panic
> > > when you see it on the lab. And you'll see it on the lab :)
> > >
> > > Generality: Be calm. Its intimidating but its doable. The proctor
is
> >a
> > > helpful, friendly and inspiring resource. Your fellow exam mates are
> >also
> >a
> > > good resource for that reality check. If your standing there ready to
> >go
> >in
> > > and the guy/girl beside you is wired, give them a kind word to calm
them
> > > down.
> > >
> > > As this email is already too long, I'll cut it off there :)
> > >
> > > Thanks again all.
> > >
> > > Peter Van Oene, CCIE #5177
> > >
> > >



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