From: Pamela Forsyth (pforsyth@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Fri Aug 13 1999 - 23:31:54 GMT-3
What the heck is a mopnet?
At 06:50 PM 8/13/98 -0400, Alan Simpkins wrote:
>Having taken the labtwice myslef in San Jose I would say Pamela's remarks
>are right on the mopnet especially with regard to the second day being
>harder and being more a test of time management than anything else.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Pamela Forsyth <pforsyth@clark.net>
>To: Rahmlow, Howard F. <howard.rahmlow@unisys.com>
>Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 10:41 AM
>Subject: Re: CCIE Lab grading
>
>
>> Howard,
>>
>> Not witchcraft. Total possible number of points for the two days is 100.
>> The number of points to pass is 80. The points allocated to each day's
>> tasks, and the number of points for a given task, vary with the exam
>> version. The proctor will tell you how many points are required to get
>> through each day before you start the lab, and each task and subtask is
>> labelled with the number of points you will accrue for completing it so
>you
>> can keep track and determine your strategy.
>>
>> Some tasks, obviously, MUST be completed for the rest of the lab to work.
>> These are usually dealing with getting the physical interfaces to come up,
>> and with proper configuration of data-link layer technologies and
>> appropriate network-layer addressing. But you have complete discretion in
>> determining the order in which you complete the day's tasks.
>>
>> There are two critical points at which your work is graded--one at the end
>> of the first day, and the second halfway through the second day, just
>> before troubleshooting. In order to proceed to the second day or to the
>> troubleshooting, you must have scored at least enough points so that if
>you
>> manage to score all possible points for the remaining tasks, you could
>> still conceivably pass. This means that you could run a 20-point deficit
>> either at the end of the first day, OR going into troubleshooting. But
>> realistically, if you don't have any spare points going into the second
>day
>> you don't have much of a chance of completing the lab successfully. My
>> experience was that the second day was much more difficult, not so much
>> technically but in terms of time management.
>>
>> If you are at a 20-point deficit going into troubleshooting you do have a
>> prayer, but the pressure will really be on. My proctor didn't tell me how
>> many problems he had put into my network, so I really couldn't be certain
>I
>> had found all of them.
>>
>> I didn't concern myself too much with keeping track of points when I did
>> the lab--I don't think it's productive to worry about it. I recommend you
>> not waste any time adding up points--better to spend that time ensuring
>> your configs are working the way you want them to, and **documenting**
>your
>> network. The documentation is worth almost nothing in terms of points,
>but
>> you won't be able to pass the lab unless it is done accurately--unless you
>> are one of those rare individuals with photographic memory.
>>
>> The procedures have changed a lot over the history of the program. It has
>> been getting progressively tougher over the years. One very early CCIE
>> told me they were able to pair up in teams. As recently as May of 1997,
>> the RTP lab was still providing both days' tasks the morning of the first
>> day, giving candidates an opportunity to review that evening any
>> protocols/technologies they were able to put off until day 2; there was
>> also "all or none" scoring of tasks. Each task would have several
>> subtasks, but you wouldn't get any points for the task unless you
>completed
>> all subtasks successfully. Now it is possible to score the points for the
>> individual subtasks you are able to complete, even if you can't complete
>> all the subtasks under a task heading.
>>
>> They stopped letting people bring their personal notes into the lab around
>> September or October 1996, AFAIK. The evolution of procedures and
>> restrictions may account for differing stories you may have heard.
>>
>> I was encouraged to stay and work with the equipment and the lab problems
>> after failing the lab--you should ask for this privilege if it is not
>> offered. The rack has been allocated for your use for the full two days,
>> and it is good to take advantage of it. The proctor will not give you any
>> hints about the tasks you were not able to complete, nor should you expect
>> him to.
>>
>> My successful lab experience was in February 1998. The exam content has
>> changed, but I don't think the procedures have changed very much since
>then.
>>
>> Pamela
>>
>> At 10:01 PM 8/12/99 -0400, Rahmlow, Howard F. wrote:
>> >Anybody out here know how the CCIE lab is scored. I have seen all the
>scary
>> >options, but not 2 match. I know you need 80 to pass, that seems to be
>about
>> >it. The rest is witchcraft.
>> >
>> >Thanks, Howard.
>> >
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