From: Rick Burts (burts@xxxxxxxx)
Date: Sun Jul 11 1999 - 02:33:01 GMT-3
I had a similar experience my first time through (in RTP) where the
letter set a time expectation which was different than what was
administered. I was upset at not having all the time I expected,
but I did listen carefully the next morning while the proctor started
the next group, and found that the proctor did explicitly say the test
was 7 1/2 hours - I just never did the math to figure that my time
frame was not correct. I did not make it into day 2 and have come to
realize that the time problem made it a bit worse but that I really was
not ready to pass that first time.
I did raise a comlaint to the CCIE program manager about the discrepancy
in the letter. I noticed that when I took the lab the second time, that
the letter was different - did not say 9 to 6. For some reason they
have gone back to the original practice.
Good luck next time around and WATCH YOUR TIME CAREFULLY.
Rick
On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Brian Van Benschoten wrote:
> My proctor never mentioned anything like that. She stated that points cant
> be "bought and sold" She never offered anyone in my room that type of deal.
>
> someone else asked about the points. each section is a few points.
>
> I still think it was a fair test, my proctor was helpful and courteous.
> Somehow I got the time wrong. I wish Cisco would not send out that form
> email with the times stated: 9 AM -6 PM. That sets the wrong expectation.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richardson, Cheryl <cheryl.richardson@lmco.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 10:37 AM
> Subject: RE: My first attempt
>
>
> > Hi Brian,
> > Thanks so much for the information! I do have one question..
> >
> > After listening to a radio CCIE conversation with one of the proctors in
> > RTP, I got the feeling
> > that the exam was modular in nature and that the proctors were there to
> help
> > in time management.
> > For instance, in the first section where you are hooking up the physical
> > layout, after some time
> > period, 20 mns or so, they would stop you and if you were not complete, it
> > would be completed for
> > you and they would just deduct the points.
> >
> > It sounds like from your experience, you did all the time management..?
> >
> > Best of luck on try #2!
> >
> > Cheryl
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brian Van Benschoten [SMTP:vader@inxpress.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 11:08 AM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: My first attempt
> > >
> > > fell a bit short. I ended up in the high 20's. I needed 30 out of the
> > > possible 45 to get past the first day.
> > >
> > > There's a few things I can share with you regarding the test that wont
> > > violate the rules.
> > >
> > > I took my test in San Jose.
> > >
> > > The email I received from Janet Swain stated that the lab would run from
> > > 9:00 am to 6:00 PM. THIS IS NOT TRUE. The lab ran from 9:00 am to 5:00
> > > P.M.. with a 1/2 hour lunch. The lab guide stated that the lab was 7.5
> > > hours
> > > long. The proctor stated that "around 5 I will remind you to save your
> > > configs". No one really explicitly stated that the stop time was 5:00
> > > P.M..
> > > I was preoccupied and nervous, perhaps I should have paid better
> > > attention.
> > > I would encourage you all to get the proctor to tell you the exact stop
> > > time. Needless to say, I planned my strategy around a 6:00 P.M. stop
> > > time.
> > > I ran out of time. I think another 15 minutes would have done it for
> me.
> > >
> > > I asked the proctor why the time difference? She stated that the times
> > > are
> > > stated to assist in flight scheduling and allow for a minor hardware
> > > failure
> > > during the lab.
> > >
> > > Now the best part...
> > >
> > > I got to the first day 1.5 hours early. (My hotel was about 10 miles
> > > away)
> > > so the second day I planned how much time I needed for travel and set
> > > off.
> > > There was an accident on the freeway and I arrived 5 minutes late. The
> > > group had already been let back in to the lab. I told the receptionist
> > > that
> > > I was there for the lab. She stated that the proctor would be out in a
> > > few
> > > minutes to get me. I asked the receptionist to call back to the lab or
> > > let
> > > me pass. She stated she would not call the proctor and would not let me
> > > pass due to security reasons. Well, 25 minutes passed. she left the
> > > proctor a voice mail message. I knew the proctor was busy starting the
> > > next
> > > group of students on the first day lab and talking to our group about
> our
> > > first day results. I'm sure she was quite busy. So I called Cisco
> > > security
> > > and asked them to escort me to the lab room. Which they did. I
> couldn't
> > > believe the attitude and lack of assistance the receptionist showed me.
> I
> > > paid 1000.00 to take the lab and was barely treated like a person. It
> was
> > > frustrating to say the least.
> > >
> > > Tips for the lab.
> > >
> > > TIME MANAGEMENT !
> > >
> > > In a real network you don't leave pieces undone. On the test you may
> need
> > > to if you are spending too much time on a section. Count the number of
> > > sections and divide by the time you have. This will give you a rough
> > > guess
> > > of how long you should spend per section. Skip things you don't know
> how
> > > to
> > > do or take too much time. Get the points you need to pass to the second
> > > day. In general I found the material fairly easy, there is just alot of
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Good luck to you all. I'll try again in a few months.
> > >
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