From: Higgins, Andrew (Andrew.Higgins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Sat Jun 12 1999 - 16:20:22 GMT-3
Not that we need to carry this thread any further but I definitely agree
with Scott. On the CCIE lab knowing a lot of theory rather than knowing how
to configure ospf over frame relay or route redistribution won't even get
you past the first day. The lab has been designed to show them that you
understand why you configure a feature in a certain way and you also
understand how to implement it. The whole point of the lab is that it is a
lab. If the CCIE was based on theory alone then it could be somewhat
accomplished with a test like the prequal exam. I understand that you may
be doing some hands on, but choosing to study theory more than actual
practice or implementation methods will only waste your time and money.
Looking at existing router configurations and minimal debug outputs will
make you understand what someone has already done but it won't get you far
when your trying to configure something and you get stuck. You have to know
intimately how routing protocols work and how to implement them on Cisco
routers, you need the theory background AND the hands on. If you really
intend to go down the theory path then good luck, your really going to need
it.
Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: Luan Nguyen [mailto:lm_nguyen@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 1:54 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Candidate (Columbus, Ohio)
Thanks for the Advice Scott.
What I meant was not just learn on papers. I learn from things that already
exist (<--not building anything there :) ). I would go to existing router
and study output of different show commands. Occationally, I also look at
output of debug commands. There are a whole lot of technologies to learn
about, I don't want to constrain myself with configuring routers. What if
cisco gives you a mainframe and ask you to implement it into a network.
what if they give you an apple labtop and ask you to configure and connect
it to a network...we can't just say oh..they are not supposed to be in the
labtest. What I meant is that if you know a lot of theory it will better
prepare you for surprises more than knowing how to configure something like
ospf over frame relay and how to redistribute rip into eigrp...and worry
about oddities :)
personally, I think KNOWLEDGE RULES!
>From: Scott Morris <SMorris@tele-tech.com>
>Reply-To: Scott Morris <SMorris@tele-tech.com>
>To: "'Luan Nguyen'" <lm_nguyen@hotmail.com>, joshua@netset.com,
>ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: CCIE Candidate (Columbus, Ohio)
>Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:15:22 -0400
>
>I would strongly disagree with the part about knowing enough theory will
>make the routers easier... Unless you have enough access of written notes
>to know of "oddities" in making things work together, particularly when it
>comes to redistribution and things like that, then you'll be in for a world
>of surprises if you haven't built them and played with them yet.
>
>Scott
>smorris@tele-tech.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Luan Nguyen [mailto:lm_nguyen@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 8:42 PM
>To: joshua@netset.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Re: CCIE Candidate (Columbus, Ohio)
>
>
>Hi Group,
>I am also a new list member. My lab date will be sept 30 in raleigh.
>I called around(nova scottia and san jose; don't think i am that anxious to
>go abroad :) ) but seems like nothing available earlier.
>However I asked to be on the waitlist: if someone for some reasons
>cancelled their lab exam, I will be notified.
>My way of study will be study more tech theory on paper and books.
>personally, I think if you know enuff theory, put them into routers won't
>be
>
>any problem...but I could be wrong :)
>
>Luan
>
>
>
> >From: "Joshua Peterson" <joshua@netset.com>
> >Reply-To: "Joshua Peterson" <joshua@netset.com>
> >To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: CCIE Candidate (Columbus, Ohio)
> >Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:50:19 -0400
> >
> >Hello Everyone,
> >
> >I was just added to the CCIE lab list.
> >
> >I am located in Columbus, Ohio and have a small lab to prepare for the
>CCIE
>
> >lab. I am currently focusing on the IP side of the house in preparation
>for
>
> >Day one of the lab. Is there is anyone in the area that would like to get
> >together to prepare for the lab together?
> >
> >
> >Where can I find the archive of previous posted message to this list?
> >
> >I am scheduled for the Lab in October in Raleigh, but I was thinking
>about
> >trying another locating for an earlier date. Does anyone have numbers as
>to
>
> >the soonest available date at each location.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Joshua Peterson
> >joshua@netset.com
> >
>
>
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