From: Dana Gertsch (dgertsch@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Apr 21 1999 - 14:15:29 GMT-3
All,
My sponsor is willing to setup an ATM Routing and Switching lab with
2/3600's, two Cat5's and a 1010 but they want to know if the interest is
there first.
This rack would be up and ready to use in 3 - 5 weeks, accessible via the
internet just like our current offering.
What kind of interest is there out there for this additional service?
And if you are interested, what would you consider a reasonable hourly rate?
(Please keep in mind the startup costs here).
Please reply directly (not to the group).
Thanks,
Dana
CCIE 3397
www.virtualrack.com
David Powers wrote:
> I am taking the lab on june 30th. I feel your pain. I believe that it is
> possible that their may be some 3600 series routers with atm modules in
> them. I remember getting an announcement talking about it. Since these
> are cheaper they may include these in the lab. Not sure though.
>
> here is the original message
>
> The 3600 platform team is pleased to announce three new high-speed ATM
> network modules that are now orderable for the 3600 series with IOS
> release 12.0(3)T1 and above.
>
> These three network modules support STS-3c and STM-1 framing standards
> over
> Multimode, Singlemode Intermediate Reach, and Singlemode Long Reach
> fiber
> optic interfaces. All 3 versions consist of a single-port network module
> with SC
> connector types that support the ATM Forum standard ATM adaptation layer
> 5
> (AAL5).
>
> The three new 3600 series ATM OC-3 network modules that will start
> shipping
> on April 19, 1999 include:
>
> NM-1A-OC3MM - $6,000 - Single port ATM OC-3 Multimode Fiber network
> module
> NM-1A-OC3SMI - $8,000 - Single port ATM OC-3 Singlemode Intermediate
> Reach
> Fiber network module
> NM-1M-OC3SML - $10,000 -Single port ATM OC-3 Singlemode Long Reach Fiber
> network module
>
> The ATM OC-3 Network Modules are only supported on the 3620 and 3640.
> Cisco's
> IOS "Plus" feature sets are required for ATM support. A maximum of one
> ATM OC-3
> network module is recommended on both the 3640 and 3620. There are no
> additional
> Flash or DRAM memory requirements for ATM network modules, other then
> those
> specified by the Cisco IOS Release 12.0(3)T Plus minimum memory
> requirements
> The 3600 does not support full 155Mbps OC-3 line rates. The maximum
> supported
> speeds range from 20 - 80Mbps depending on packet size, and up to 40Kpps
> with
> 64 byte packets on a 3640.
>
> The ATM Singlemode fiber network modules provide high-speed trunking for
> users
> with access to fiber WAN, while the Multimode fiber network module is
> ideal for
> connecting colocated high-speed servers, switches, or hubs equiped with
> an OC-3/
> STM-1 fiber connection.
>
> Voice over IP and H.323 over ATM WAN can be supported using VBR-rt class
> of
> service SVC's, using the currently available analog Voice/Fax network
> modules and
> Voice Interface Cards.
>
> OC-3 ATM Features at a Glance
>
> · ATM Service Classes UBR, UBR+, VBR-rt, VBR-nrt, ABR, and CBR
> · UNI 3.0, 3.1 and 4.0
> · RFC 1483 and 1577
> · Layer 2 per-VC Queuing and Traffic Shaping
> · Up to 1024 simultaneous VCs
> · F4 and F5 Operations and Management (OAM) cell support
> · PVC's and SVC's
> · LANE 2.0
> · Early Packet Discard
> · Tag Switching
> · IETF PPP over ATM
> · MPOA Client and Server
> · ILMI
> · ABR SVC's
> · ATM UNI 4.0 Traffic Management
> · ATM Bandwidth Manager
> · VP Tunnels (Permanent Virtual Paths, PVPs)
> · NHRP
>
> OC-3 ATM Network Module Key Points
>
> The introduction of ATM OC-3 network modules for the Cisco 3600
> multiservice
> access routers give enterprise and service provider customers a
> cost-effective solution
> for extending multiservice capabilities to remote branch-office
> locations through
> Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM). These new capabilities on the 3600
> enable
> customers to integrate mulitprotocol data, video and IP routing over
> high-speed ATM,
> greatly increasing the selection of Wide-Area Network (WAN) deployment
> options
> for legacy and LAN-to-LAN connectivity. With OC-3 ATM capability, the
> 3600 is an
> ideal solution for customers to deploy high-speed data, voice and video
> applications
> through a single robust connection from the branch office to regional or
> corporate
> headquarters.
>
> Enhanced ATM capabilities on the 3600 give service providers greater
> traffic
> management ability and Quality of Service (QoS) controls to deliver
> business-quality
> Voice-over-IP (VoIP) and other mission critical applications. Because
> the new network
> modules are standards-based ATM and fully interoperate with the complete
> line of
> Cisco's carrier-class ATM switches, the 3600 is a cost-effective
> solution for bandwidth
> management and service deployment at the service provider network edge.
> The 3600
> is a modular router that gives service providers the full benefit of
> Cisco IOS(tm) software,
> enabling them to deliver services based on the applications currently
> running in the
> largest enterprises.
>
> - Cost-Effective ATM CPE Solution for High Speed Managed Router Services
> - Higher ATM Access speeds (up to 80Mbps) for the 3600 Series
> - Adds increased WAN flexibility to 3600 platform
> - Continued investment protection
> - Improved ATM QoS with support of UBR+, VBR-rt, VBR-nrt, CBR and ABR
> Class of
> Services
> - Improved Traffic Shaping Capabilities - (done in hardware)
> - New Bandwidth Resource Manager to prevent single VC oversbuscription
>
> Frequently Asked Questions sample:
>
> Q. On what platforms will the new ATM OC-3 network modules be supported?
>
> A. The ATM OC-3 network modules will be supported on both the 3640 and
> 3620 platforms.
> At this time there is no planned support on the 2600 platforms. Due to a
> compatability problem
> between the 3620 rev. C PCMCIA controller, and the OC-3 network modules,
> any OC-3 network
> module ordered as a spare to be used in a 3620 will require that the
> 3620 have a rev. E
> PCMCIA controller installed.
>
> Before April, 1999 all 3620's in the field have a rev. C PCMCIA
> controller installed. The customer
> will recieve a warning message what attempting to configure the OC-3 in
> a 3620, if the incorrect
> PCMCIA rev level is detected, and the system will not recognize the OC-3
> network module.
> If this occurs then an RMA process must be initiated by a call to the
> TAC for replacement of the
> 3620 chassis free of charge.
>
> Starting in April 1999 all 3620's shipped from the factory will include
> rev. E PCMCIA controllers
> and be compatible to all three ATM OC-3 network modules.
>
> Please contact Bill Massung directly for any upgrade issues regarding
> large 3620/ OC-3 installations
> at 408/526-8464 or via email at massung@cisco.com.
>
> Q. How many ATM OC-3 network modules are supported in a single 3640 and
> 3620?
>
> A. A maximum of one ATM OC-3 network module is recommended for both the
> 3640 or
> 3620, but this is not a software-enforced restriction. More then two
> high-speed
> interfaces (including ATM, FE or HSSI) are not recommended in a 3640. An
> understanding of the 3600 series performance considerations is
> recommended when
> an ATM OC-3 network module is configured with two or more high-speed
> network
> modules. See PB545 for more details
>
> Q.What are the applications for the three different versions of ATM?
>
> A. The Singlemode Intermediate Reach ATM network modules provide
> high-speed
> trunking for users with access to Public or private fiber optic WAN.
> The
> Singlemode Long Reach is best suited for "Dark Fiber" applications where
> a
> direct fiber optic link exists between two stations without any
> intervening
> hardware other then the fiber itself. Multimode is ideal for connecting
> to an
> ATM Switch or hub with OC-3c/STM-1 fiber in a co-located or limited
> distance
> application such as in a campus environment.
>
> Q. What are the maximum distances supported by the 3 physical
> interfaces?
>
> A. Multimode version supports up to 2km, Single-Mode Intermediate
> supports up
> to 15km, and Long reach version supports up to 45km.
>
> Q. Is ATM Circuit Emulation Services (CES) supported with these new
> network
> modules?
>
> A. No, at FCS, structured and unstructured CES using AAL1 are not
> supported. In
> Q4CY99, a Voice Processing Deck (VPD) expansion card slot, and a
> WAN/Voice
> Interface Card for PBX connectivity will support up to 2 local T1/E1
> trunk
> connections to a PBX. The VPD will be supported on all three versions of
> OC-3
> network modules. This will not be a field upgradable option.
>
> Q. Is Voice Over IP (VoIP) over ATM supported over OC-3 ATM?
>
> A. Yes, VoIP over ATM can be supported over WAN using VBR-rt class of
> service
> SVC's using the currently available Voice/Fax network modules and
> associated
> Voice Interface cards. ATM provides an ideal WAN transport method for
> prioritizing voice packets over data packets to deliver low-latency,
> jitter-free voice support.
>
> Q. What is the performance of the ATM OC-3 network modules on the 3600?
>
> A. The OC-3 network modules are not capable of running at wire-rate in
> either
> the 3640 or 3620. The ATM OC-3 network module's Fast Ethernet to ATM
> OC-3
> performance on a 3640 with large packets is 80Mbps. The 3620 is capable
> of up
> to 68Mbps. Performance on the 3640 with 64 byte packets is 40Kpps, and
> on the
> 3620 it is 22Kpps with 64 byte packets.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stanley Seow [mailto:stanley@silicon.net.my]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 11:55 PM
> To: Khalid.Khan@gecits-eu.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Preparation
>
> Any idea what is the objective of the ATM included for June labs ?
> Are those the 5500 ATM module / LS1010 - ( LECS, BUS, LEC, VLAN, ELAN )
> ?
>
> I m kinda worried about the ATM part actually.
>
> Stanley
>
> > I intended to take my lab week starting 14/6/99 in Brussels.
> > I know this
> > may seem a very open ended question but any tips on how to
> > prepare apart
> > from
> > make sure you know everything about everything.
> > I have been trying to get as much hands on and doing a lot of mock
> > scenarios but
> > get very overwhelmed with the vast subject matter since they are now
> > introducing ATM.
> > Over the next few weeks I have mapped out plan of what to
> > study and when
> > but sticking to
> > it difficut.
> >
> > Any comments?
> >
> >
> >
> > Khalid Khan
> > GE Capital IT Solutions
> >
> >
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